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Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by michaelmrose »

tyingq wrote: post #52
_fat_santa wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are cheaper until their not. Family booked a flight to Colorado from Georgia one winter to go skiing. Spirit let us know an hour before the flight that out flight was overbooked and offered us another flight....4 days later. We ended up coughing up an extra $1200 to fly Delta and Spirit never refunded us because "we could have taken the flight we offered". Last time I ever flew with a budget air carrier. Now I f…

The DOT has very specific rules about passenger compensation for passengers "bumped" off of flights via denied boarding: https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer... "Over 2 hour arrival delay 400% of one-way fare (airlines may limit the compensation to $1,550 if 400% of the one-way fare is higher than $1,550)" What they did in your case was illegal. Which has happened at Spirit before: https://www…

When did this go into effect? Years back we tried to land twice due to fog then had to wait overnight with no accomodations to take the bus zero compensation. Still won't fly Southwest because they merged with the offender.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by Mordisquitos »

agd wrote: post #29

Worth noting the incident in 2013 where the US and EU collaborated to ground a plane to target a whistleblower: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales_grounding_incident

Worth noting that the incident in 2013...

• did not affect Belarus in any way.

• had nothing to do with Greece, Lithuania or Ireland, the countries most directly affected in this incident.

• resulted in immediate diplomatic apologies from both Spain and France, two of the countries that were involved.

• was condemned by the U.N. Secretary General.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by TechBro8615 »

app4soft wrote: post #6
knlje wrote: post #3

Here is a new statement published 45 minutes ago: https://twitter.com/RyanairPress/status/1396767221058359299

Are they reading HN? And just updated Ryanair's statement still does not include info about two "arrested" (kidnapped!) passengers of FR4978 flight in Minsk... JFTR, Originally title of actual thread on HN was: “Ryanair’s statement on FR4978 does not include info about arrested passengers” [0] [0] https://twitter.com/hn_frontpage/status/1396775444071002113

No, HN replies are basically carbon copy of the top tweets about this.

Not sure why this story is getting so much attention on HN tbh. I guess the connection to Snowden makes it mildly relevant.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by throwawayhay »

The very sad thing is that there’s a lot of firms in Silicon Valley that do a lot of business with Belarus, totally ignoring the monstrosities of Lukashenko.

Mapbox for example, sources a considerable amount of its workforce from Minsk, and they’re little better than slaves because they can’t quit or complain or they’ll be sent to the mines.

We sit here and say that this kind of behavior is villainous, but we happily do business with those who profit off of the suffering of others. For shame.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by odshoifsdhfs »

r721 wrote: post #58
odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #51

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Out of curiosity, do you know her nationality?

>Sofia Sapega, a Russian national and student of a Belarusian university-in-exile in Vilnius https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1416106/student-of-...

Thank you

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by Synaesthesia »

publicola1990 wrote: post #72
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #10

I understand the anger against Ryanair aloofness and its dictatorship compliance, but I think it's diverting energy from the real culprits, which are the kidnappers and their boss.

Israel very well could do something similar to get someone they wanted badly, but if they did it will it be greeted by a similar reaction?

They have already in the past. Taken hostages from Lebanese boats.

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Post by grayhatter »

throwawayhay wrote: post #84

The very sad thing is that there’s a lot of firms in Silicon Valley that do a lot of business with Belarus, totally ignoring the monstrosities of Lukashenko. Mapbox for example, sources a considerable amount of its workforce from Minsk, and they’re little better than slaves because they can’t quit or complain or they’ll be sent to the mines. We sit here and say that this kind of behavior is villainous, but we happily…

"we" ...

Humans aren't responsible for the actions of their brothers. What they're doing is wrong, but its not a we. perhaps you were looking to make a call to action? a link to the contact points might go a long way.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by odshoifsdhfs »

nolok wrote: post #68
odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #49

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Let's see, will fly with them tomorrow. Faro->Porto (550km). 9.95 euros. 50 minutes flight Train-> 6 hours, which is usually 7+ due to delays (last one I did in December was 7.20 making me late for a training) and costs 39 euros (20 if I buy 1 month in advance) National airline -> No direct flight, need to fly to Lisbon and then Porto, total around 4-5 hours (two flights + layover), 80+ euros last time I checked. Ser…

> Let's see, will fly with them tomorrow. Faro->Porto (550km). 9.95 euros. 50 minutes flight > Train-> 6 hours, which is usually 7+ due to delays (last one I did in December was 7.20 making me late for a training) and costs 39 euros (20 if I buy 1 month in advance) Look, I do not strictly disagree with your comparison and I have often taken low cost airlines for the same reasons here and in asia (though airasia is a…

While I know in other countries it isn't like this, here Faro/Porto is the same airports that Qatar/Tap/SwissAir, so it isn't a difference at all.

I never travel with baggage. Even in not cheap airlines, this add 30+ minutes for checkin and pick up also

I gave examples for Portugal. All these I did a lot. I used to travel Porto->faro and back many times a week (work in one place, my son in another). There is no real option here unless you are a full anti-flight person. I took the train down to faro last week but only because I wanted to do a training and times werent compatible, otherwise I would have flown, there isn't even a comparision here

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by odshoifsdhfs »

tluyben2 wrote: post #70
odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #49

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Let's see, will fly with them tomorrow. Faro->Porto (550km). 9.95 euros. 50 minutes flight Train-> 6 hours, which is usually 7+ due to delays (last one I did in December was 7.20 making me late for a training) and costs 39 euros (20 if I buy 1 month in advance) National airline -> No direct flight, need to fly to Lisbon and then Porto, total around 4-5 hours (two flights + layover), 80+ euros last time I checked. Ser…

I live in Faro and when I have to fly, I drive to Malaga and fly from there. But yeah, that is not to Porto but international. Never flew inside PT (inside spain, I do fly malaga Madrid with air nostrum ).

I used to live before near Malaga, but they didn't at the time (I think now they do) Malaga->Porto direct flights. it was a shame

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by odshoifsdhfs »

odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #89
tluyben2 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in Faro and when I have to fly, I drive to Malaga and fly from there. But yeah, that is not to Porto but international. Never flew inside PT (inside spain, I do fly malaga Madrid with air nostrum ).

I used to live before near Malaga, but they didn't at the time (I think now they do) Malaga->Porto direct flights. it was a shame

ps:I am in vilamoura for that last night tonight, if you want to grab a drink ping me ;)
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