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Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Post by bigmattystyles »

adrianb wrote: post #49

If anything, this is an amazing insight onto how the media will report anything from a press release without a minimum of investigation. The name change was essentially breaking news everywhere. - they're changing the almost 100 years old name with... a pun on that name? Even a teenager would see it as a joke. - the announcement comes out 2 days before April 1st and is deleted from the website shortly after publishin…

Yes, the media reporting makes those outlets who did look foolish; that being said, this could have been a trial balloon or one hell of news play by VW to get a lot of people to realize they have a fleet of EVs.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

#83

Post by blackearl »

flyingfences wrote: post #75
abledon wrote: post #24

I don't like the name but it begs the question... Is April fools the 'marketing dept' version of 'Staging' in a CI/CD pipeline? (or maybe blue/green deployment is better analogy !) Like, if the tests fail (the public is enraged at your tweak ex. 'volt'swagen) , rollback the change under the guise of 'April fools'

It invites the question. http://begthequestion.info/

English is pliable and sometimes a word or phrase becomes what the masses think of it, especially when "journalists, advertisers, and major mass media entities" use it that way. See literally, irregardless

Irregardless, it literally begs the question.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Post by mikestew »

_ea1k wrote: post #72
mikestew wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wonder what it WOULD take for VW, Chevy, Ford, Toyota etc to convince you their product and commitment was on par with Tesla That they've been making production electric cars longer than Tesla, like Nissan has? (Though my singular Nissan dealer experience kinda put me off Nissans for a while.)

Yeah, and its not like the Leaf is great. It is fairly recent that they've started making cars as good as the Model 3 and Y.

Seriously? How much does a Leaf cost in comparison to a Model Y? For the price of a Model Y, I expect the body panels aligned, and the paint not orange-peeled, like the Nissan. After that, we can compare the $35K car to the $90K car.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Post by jakeva »

flyingfences wrote: post #75
abledon wrote: post #24

I don't like the name but it begs the question... Is April fools the 'marketing dept' version of 'Staging' in a CI/CD pipeline? (or maybe blue/green deployment is better analogy !) Like, if the tests fail (the public is enraged at your tweak ex. 'volt'swagen) , rollback the change under the guise of 'April fools'

It invites the question. http://begthequestion.info/

I don't really want to get into it, those days are long behind me. But I couldn't help feeling dissatisfied with the content you linked.

  A simple example would be "My favorite author is always right because he says so in his latest book." The proof is merely a restatement of the premise. The sentence has begged the question.
Ok, but... why? It asserts that "begging the question" is misused, asserts a "real" meaning, but doesn't explain it. In what way is a restatement of the premise a form of "begging the question"?

I don't get it and just wanted to vent a little bit, putting my feelings about linguistic prescriptivism aside.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

#87

Post by HenryBemis »

dheera wrote: post #66
adrianb wrote: post #49

If anything, this is an amazing insight onto how the media will report anything from a press release without a minimum of investigation. The name change was essentially breaking news everywhere. - they're changing the almost 100 years old name with... a pun on that name? Even a teenager would see it as a joke. - the announcement comes out 2 days before April 1st and is deleted from the website shortly after publishin…

Also, why is this such a big deal? Just change the name and change it back, the media can have at it, not their problem. Ultimately it's the car that matters.

> Just change the name and change it back

For real? A company with global presence, to LEGALLY change their name? And then run through the bureaucratic hell with countries, tax authorities, customs, contracts, insurance companies, changing logos/templates..

Do you have what is the actual cost to change a name for a company?

The top hit on a DDG search:

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/how-do-i-change-my-business-na...

Before you start the process, think about the costs and time to change a business name. The legal change of business name is only one part of the process and the cost. The other part is making the change in all the places where your business name is displayed to the public and internally and on legal documents.

Now take this and apply it in (practically) every country on the planet, as VW is not a single store across the street.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

#88

Post by pvorb »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #81
adrianb wrote: post #49

If anything, this is an amazing insight onto how the media will report anything from a press release without a minimum of investigation. The name change was essentially breaking news everywhere. - they're changing the almost 100 years old name with... a pun on that name? Even a teenager would see it as a joke. - the announcement comes out 2 days before April 1st and is deleted from the website shortly after publishin…

Yes, the media reporting makes those outlets who did look foolish; that being said, this could have been a trial balloon or one hell of news play by VW to get a lot of people to realize they have a fleet of EVs.

The latter being actually true, but whithout the cost of actually changing their name, right?

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Post by laurent92 »

breitling wrote: post #3

They really are learning from Elon

That’s a good point, they are learning from him how to do marketing without passing as a boomer: A bit of ecologic transition, and a joke. Add a meme and we’re complete.

It is very 2020ies. Doing this in 2030 will make you pass as a millenial.

Re: Volkswagen will not change name of U.S. operations: sources

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Post by jessriedel »

adrianb wrote: post #49

If anything, this is an amazing insight onto how the media will report anything from a press release without a minimum of investigation. The name change was essentially breaking news everywhere. - they're changing the almost 100 years old name with... a pun on that name? Even a teenager would see it as a joke. - the announcement comes out 2 days before April 1st and is deleted from the website shortly after publishin…

Minimum of investigation? It's a story about a company's self-reported intention.
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