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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by alphadevx »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #12
Hamuko wrote: post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ? The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

100% this. Already happening (I moved all of mine from London to Frankfurt last year, fully expecting this to happen). DCs in the UK will suffer.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by hnlmorg »

Hamuko wrote: post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

It's not surprising considering this is the same government who used such data to create targeted campaigns to win the referendum in the first place.

edit: wow that's a lot of downvotes in a short space of time. Maybe I should back my point up with some evidence to prove I'm not talking out of my arse (though it was widely reported at the time so I'm surprised anyone would disagree with me): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44966969

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by iamacyborg »

ur-whale wrote: post #77
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That like claiming "For 99% of consumers food safety regulations means nothing but annoying 'use by date'!" Just because the effects are not obvious to a layman, doesnt they aren't there

Thank you for the protection we've never asked for. Now, can you come and change my diapers for me ?

I never asked for rigorous safety legislation around fire safety, infrastructure safety, etc. I'm still glad they exist though.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by arkitaip »

ur-whale wrote: post #77
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That like claiming "For 99% of consumers food safety regulations means nothing but annoying 'use by date'!" Just because the effects are not obvious to a layman, doesnt they aren't there

Thank you for the protection we've never asked for. Now, can you come and change my diapers for me ?

Just because you don't care about your privacy and the way companies handle your data doesn't mean others should suffer the same date. As for changing your diapers, there are services for that, too.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by oytis »

Well, we'll see. The pandemic has shown that tracking can be a huge economic advantage - and it's likely not the last pandemic we encounter. OTOH targeting adtech can redirect resources to some more potentially useful areas.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision.

If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. When in reality a large chunk of them have pretty much not agreed to any of this but are still set to suffer the consequences.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by benwad »

sverhagen wrote: post #62
boomskats wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unclear whether the 'they' you refer to are the British people, or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. (I'm aware that all sounds quite America-like already)

I have no doubt you're right, but I'm just not familiar with the specific details. What are some real ways they stand to "profit immensely"?

Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by coding_unit_1 »

piokoch wrote: post #28

For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

The guidelines are pretty clear on what processing is, what data it covers and who controllers are in those circumstances. The biggest flaw I see is people don't read them and assume any data in any context is bound by it and it becomes a stick to beat everything with when it's not required.

I'm afraid your example is a prime case of that - leaving a hat at school that happens to have your name on it clearly doesn't fall within the remit of data processing under GDPR, it's a strawman (straw boater?) argument

I also don't agree it's a bad thing to make no distinction on size of company, doing so would leave a grey area of when a thing becomes "big enough" to transition from outside to inside scope and therefore gaps in the enforcement.

If you want to build a hobby forum, you're free to do it without requiring my personal data. If you want to collect my data for analysis or marketing then I absolutely want you to abide by the rules and look after it even if you're a lone programmer in his basement.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by teh_klev »

melomal wrote: post #5

I can honestly say that I think it made little to no difference, across the board. The requirements etc have not been fulfilled by most companies, why bother.

> have not been fulfilled by most companies

I think you need to back that up with credible numbers.

GDPR was and has been a massive kick in the backside for companies large and small in the UK. I certainly know from talking to my past client base and current network, which is from a fairly broad spectrum of organisations, they treated GDPR compliance pretty seriously. Hell even my local village pub made sure they were in compliance, despite just having a manual paper based guest register.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by distances »

melomal wrote: post #5

I can honestly say that I think it made little to no difference, across the board. The requirements etc have not been fulfilled by most companies, why bother.

Absolutely was a big topic. Company I worked for at the time of the change took it very seriously, and all parts I saw were adapted accordingly.
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