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Vue Native (2018)

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Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by cumwolf »

ppeetteerr wrote: post #46
vlz wrote: post #17

It should be noted that this is a wrapper around React Native.[1] I am a bit in doubt if one can use Vue Native knowing only Vue and never having to learn any React. [1]: https://github.com/GeekyAnts/vue-native-core says as much.

I just saw this as well. I realize that some people might be more familiar with Vue than React, but wrapping RN seems overly complicated and adds yet another layer of abstraction.

this is super neat that this works but also if someone actually wants to build an app I'd never recommend this. but yeah super cool

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by sakarisson »

kj800x wrote: post #52
mrtksn wrote: post #22

What are the trade offs/Adventages to use cross platform tools for app development in 2021? The advantages of native iOS development, off top of my head: 1) Swift is very pleasant to use and it is fast. 2) The UI libraries that I need to learn: UIKit and SwiftUI. SwiftUI is also very pleasant to use and it is getting there. 3) No hoops to jump for integrating API that makes an App do things that WebApp cannot do. 4)…

At my work, my team is pioneering React Native development so I've got a couple of thoughts. The main benefits for us come down to the fact that we have a large existing JS web application that would take a lot of energy to port to both native platforms (we know from experience, we tried it before). Using React Native, we can share a significant amount of the data and controller layers between web and native. This al…

React Native Web (https://github.com/necolas/react-native-web) is a nice solution for better cross-compatibility between React Native and React DOM.

React DOM is very coupled with DOM elements, so React Native Web abstracts away web-specific things, so that code is more sharable.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by that_guy_iain »

mrtksn wrote: post #58
that_guy_iain wrote: post #40

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> 5) Despite its bugs, Xcode is a good IDE that natively understand all the tooling I use. Autocomplete might break down sometimes but it can handle project creation, asset management, project configurations and the distribution. This seems like you have very low standards for what is good.

Please educate me, what is good? What I am missing out on? I'm no stranger to Web tech, including JS on the browser and on the server side. It's hell compared to native App development using the native technologies. I mean, it's so bad that the tutorials explaining the project setup phase can be hours long to follow. Scripts running in the background just to keep you in check and let you write more readable code that…

> Please educate me, what is good? What I am missing out on?

For me, it's that you're talking about the flaws which means they're considerable.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by realusername »

sgt wrote: post #59

Flutter web is also becoming a viable option for web apps. I recently wrote a new app in Flutter and it works surprisingly well on the web, not just in native iOS and Android. It has some quirks though but I did not find anything serious.

I have a large Flutter codebase and I don't have the same opinion, Flutter web is still an alpha quality and it would take way too much work to make my codebase work with the web version. For desktop though, it's pretty good.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by gecko »

criddell wrote: post #66
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #41

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I regret Delphi is a niche product now as it's quite powerful now, with native apps also for mobile platforms. Pity that the Community Edition doesn't support Linux.

Do native Delphi applications use native controls (when available)? Do they feel native, or are they their own thing? I'm thinking specifically of Java Swing applications that never felt native.

Delphi is definitely 100% native. I'm not sure about Free Pascal's Lazarus; it looks native when I've used it, but I'd need to break out Spy++ or WinObj or something to actually poke at what's going on.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by rkangel »

Is anyone else sad that we have adopted HTML/CSS as the universal lingua franca for describing views?

I understand why (or at least I believe I do): HTML/CSS is an inevitable part of the ecosystem because the web is an important target. A lot of devs will know at least some, and your organisation may already have loads of them because you also need to target the web. Maybe you even already have some view code written for the web platform that you want to re-use. This means that HTML/CSS gives you a head-start due to existing skillsets. It's familiar for some people and they can get going.

The problem is that it's bad. I say this as someone who comes from the outside, and isn't an expert ("barely competent" in HTML/CSS is probably accurate). Basic layout of things in a way that copes with different screen sizes/orientations is a surprisingly black art sometimes. There's a lot of history confusing the issue and three ways of doing each thing.

Coming at it fresh, it's a lot to learn to build a desktop/mobile UI. Flutter (for example) has its issues, but getting things to lay out correctly did not take a lot of learning. Once you've got the basics (3 days to a week for me, including learning Dart) things behaved predictably - it seems to take a lot of HTML/CSS knowledge before that is the case.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by mikece »

While this is nice, for mobile -- and even desktop -- apps I find hybrid/electron to be a far more compelling use case. On mobile, if you're stuck in a situation where you need the full power and speed of vendor native then, if you're using Ionic Capacitor, you can spin up an Activity/UIView and code that part in Java or Kotlin for Android and Swift or Obj-C for iOS (or C++ for both if you really want to). Do everything in HTML,CSS,JS that you can and only use the heavy duty tools where absolutely necessary... and the truth is, they aren't nearly as necessary as they used to be.

Re: Vue Native (2018)

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Post by mikece »

rkangel wrote: post #88

Is anyone else sad that we have adopted HTML/CSS as the universal lingua franca for describing views? I understand why (or at least I believe I do): HTML/CSS is an inevitable part of the ecosystem because the web is an important target. A lot of devs will know at least some, and your organisation may already have loads of them because you also need to target the web. Maybe you even already have some view code written…

Just like JavaScript: it's bad but it is the only thing that works everywhere so it's won.
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