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Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by johnchristopher »

kubanczyk wrote: post #66
generalizations wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Far as I can tell, matrix needs to focus harder on the user experience. It was a pain to get set up on.

I've installed Element on Android last week and created a fresh matrix.org account. No tech skills required so far.

Cool. Now get 5 friends of yours to join you in a crypted room with each using a phone and then a browser, wait two days, get back to it and manage all the insecure session notices.

Beware, they removed the warning from the android client though. It confused people.

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by kitkat_new »

johnchristopher wrote: post #81
kubanczyk wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've installed Element on Android last week and created a fresh matrix.org account. No tech skills required so far.

Cool. Now get 5 friends of yours to join you in a crypted room with each using a phone and then a browser, wait two days, get back to it and manage all the insecure session notices. Beware, they removed the warning from the android client though. It confused people.

are you talking about the gray shield?

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by swebs »

jhowell wrote: post #25

It was probably a good idea to rebrand from Riot to Element after this week's deadly violence at the US Capitol. It's difficult for me to imagine endeavoring to protect tribal, potential violent rhetoric given recent historical events. It seems short-sighted to sell a water poisoning solution to people who don't mind destroying themselves to attack their perceived opponents.

They rebranded it back in July, after the deadly violence by BLM.

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by suyash »

kitkat_new wrote: post #71
suyash wrote: post #69

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Element looks like more of a hassle specially for non tech savvy users in my family circle, I'm trying to get them to move to Signal from WhatsApp / FB Messenger.

how so?

look at the setup steps and compare that with installing Signal app

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by kitkat_new »

suyash wrote: post #84
kitkat_new wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how so?

look at the setup steps and compare that with installing Signal app

set username & pw?

people get that done - look at Instagram which grew despite having to do the exact same

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by cvwright »

justaj wrote: post #77
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #9

So how much of a vps you need to host like 100k users? More users? I tried to look but couldnt find much information.

Depends on what server implementation you're going to go for. Synapse is the reference implementation currently, but also the most resource hungry. For 100k users I would be looking at 24gb RAM and 256GB+ storage space. Along with multiple cores. If you don't need as much features, then you can try Dendrite which can have 5x to 10x less resource usage than Synapse.

I’d be surprised if 24gb is sufficient for 100k users. Back when they switched Synapse to Python3, they showed a graph where the matrix.org homeserver had something like 8-10 syncotron processes consuming 8-10gb each.

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Post by yorwba »

gingerlime wrote: post #80
skinkestek wrote: post #39

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Facebook has announced they now have courage to overstep the agreement with EU even more. People start getting tired and look for alternatives.

Did they? I was reading conflicting info. Some were saying that the EU was “excluded” from the change... (not sure how the distinction is made precisely)

Both EU users and non-EU users are required to accept new terms of service or lose access in a month, but the EU terms don't have most of the data-sharing bits that would be likely to violate the GDPR.

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Post by yorwba »

_1100 wrote: post #30
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #27

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I don't see people avoiding using phones even though neo-nazi, criminals, redheads and people with sexual preferences radically different from theirs use them constantly. Matrix is not a platform, it's a protocol and some implementation software developed in the open.

And these distinctions are esoteric to most. If the headline “(extremist group) use / flock to matrix to plan (nefarious thing)” shows up in the news, these distinctions hardly matter anymore.

Has the headline “(extremist group) use / flock to WhatsApp to plan (nefarious thing)” ever dissuaded someone from installing WhatsApp? Probably, but it got popular anyway.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/6275...

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