Twitch suspends DragonForce guitarist Herman Li for playing his own music

Post by root_axis » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 5:05 PM UTC

annexrichmond wrote: post #64

codingdave wrote: post #57

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You make them pay by abandoning them as a customer. Stop streaming. Stop watching. Fining businesses who make mistakes is a dangerous path. That means anyone new to the industry who tosses up their first project is open to getting fined if they make a mistake. It also means there is either some organization in charge of being the watchdog for the industry with power to just apply fines to companies as they see fit...…

Instead of fining businesses, perhaps the answer is litigation. I’m not sure what their TOS says, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it protects from this, but yeah, the liability should be that you open yourself up to being sued if you erroneously remove a user from your platform, who is using it as their job

Post by jimmydorry » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #61

scelerat wrote: post #50

I'm naturally concerned about this because my brother in law has a regular, ongoing streaming music show/channel on Twitch with live and pre-recorded bands (most of them local to the SF bay area). He's putting a lot of effort into it: professional-level sound engineering and lighting (his day job is a recording engineer/producer and, pre-covid, stage lighting engineer), multiple camera shoots with dollys and booms an…

It's pretty easy, supposedly, to set up streaming to both platforms. He should do so and make the alternative known to his viewers.

Post by rolph » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 5:24 PM UTC

codingdave wrote: post #57

libertine wrote: post #31

When will platforms start to be charged for their mistakes? Pretty sure if they had to make financial compensations for their mistakes, they would start using humans more often to support this crap automated system. You would start to see more people being able to reach human support, getting human replies, etc. Would be pretty easy - for each day without reply, fine X. For X day of suspension, fine Y. And so on. If…

You make them pay by abandoning them as a customer. Stop streaming. Stop watching. Fining businesses who make mistakes is a dangerous path. That means anyone new to the industry who tosses up their first project is open to getting fined if they make a mistake. It also means there is either some organization in charge of being the watchdog for the industry with power to just apply fines to companies as they see fit...…

Post by UweSchmidt » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 5:28 PM UTC

slightwinder wrote: post #70

This is old news and it was wrong. This happend at the height of a new wave of DMCA claims, so people simply assumed this had to be the reason. But it turned out later he showed some nudity, for which he got the usual 3 day-ban. Also, DMCA claims are not automatically leading to bans. It must have a certain level of harm ir repeated behaviour. And live-DMCA-checks are not active yet it seems, so usually the vod or cl…

Post by thinkingemote » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 5:33 PM UTC

grawprog wrote: post #58

podiki wrote: post #41

All these comments and not one of how awesome Herman Li is? Even if you are not at all into the type of music he plays (though, come on, shredding and video game sounds!) I think there's quite a virtuosity to be appreciated. Plus he tries (not sure how that fits with record companies) to let people use his music as they want.

Has he gotten better live? I remember his older live shows he could be a real drunken sloppy mess compared to the album recordings. I was fairly disappointed seeing them live.