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Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

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Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

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Very well written. Couldn't have said this better myself, while also being politically correct.

Here is an old paper on the problem of coaching industry, written by someone at an IIT.

https://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/hk/jee/press/currScienceJEE...

The coaching is a fucking big industry and it needs to stop if we want the currently best institutes keep sanity.

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

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I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…

I am sure you didn't intend for it to be this way but your comment is very arrogant. It seems you are coming from privilege and haven't really interacted with the real world yet. Perhaps you are still in college/ have only had high paying jobs like software engineering. Most people are not looking for high-risk jobs, they want a stable source of income that can enable them to provide a stable living for their family. This is especially true for people in countries like India. There is nothing boring or backwards about that. Especially not to someone who is not privileged.

And please do elaborate on why/how a career in medicine boring?

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

#83

I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…

Is there an equivalent of "Uncle Tom" among Indian-Americans? Because you seem to be it.

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

#84

I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…

What's weird is how many students work their asses off, get amazing grades, go to top schools...and end up at a big tech company working with people who went to state school and community college. Of course going to a top school makes the application process easier, but only insofar that you clear the resume screen and get some confirmation/credential bias in your favor. Don't get me wrong, it's great that tech compa…

If thats what they choose to work on, they probably weren't the best minds ;)

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

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I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…

I'm also an Indian from one of the "top" engineering colleges and what you say is very much true for what I have seen first hand during the 4 year degree course.

Unfortunately the reason here is definitely cultural. I was lucky that my parents didn't force me to become an engineer or doctor (though it was by choice) but for majority of my friends since 9th std, it was about getting into IIT and their whole life and their whole parent's world revolve around getting a good job in a top MNC and that's the Indian version of American dream.

Unfortunately the competition is fierce and there are 10 candidates for every spot, so you buff, cheat, cut corners and do everything in your power to get ahead. Because if you don't the other person still will and he will take your spot (it's like SEO).

There is an amazing web series called Kota factory. If you want to understand the culture it offers some great insights into it in a very entertaining way!

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, it was the official Indian student group registered on campus. Nothing wrong with the association itself, but a large subset of it were Bio majors so I’d imagine that’s how many were involved.

Why is studying based on previous years questions cheating. Dont we do the same with white board interviews?

Since you bring it up, I think studying questions that a company has been known to ask in the past is somewhat in poor taste, especially if the candidate gives the impression that this is the first time they've seen the question. Usually, when I've done interviews, I'll try to throw a wrench into the question and see how the candidate reacts if I suspect they've seen the question before.

Though in both cases, I think it's on the question asker (either teacher or interviewer) to make sure that questions change up frequently enough and aren't easy to study without having genuine understanding.

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

#88
post #59

IMHO calling it "Hacktoberfest" and not expecting a Jugaad flood seems rather naive of DO. That said, a very similar culture exists in China and the Asian subcontinent (with the exception of Japan and possibly the Koreas), in particular SE Asia, so I wouldn't say it's specific to India.

That was also my initial thought: isn't there anyone in DO management who understands the concept of perverse incentives? "Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome", says Charlie Munger.

Given how popular I've seen "metrics-driven management" become in the past little while, not specifically in DO but many other places, I'd guess not.

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

#89
post #5

It’s interesting comparing this to Australia / NZs cultural career issue, “tall poppy syndrome” [1]. People really need to be coached to even say a personal achievement let alone sell it when apply for jobs. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

Working for an American company from Australia, I've noticed a tendency for Americans to work overtime to meet a deadline, and Australians to vigorously oppose their peers from doing so. I've even seen people set up alerting if anyone makes commits outside of work hours.

There's an unspoken agreement that if someone puts in overtime and others don't, it makes the non-overtimers look bad and that that the overtimer should be _cut down_.

Probably not quite tall poppy syndrome, but maybe an adjacent phenomenon.

Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India

#90
post #15
post #5

It’s interesting comparing this to Australia / NZs cultural career issue, “tall poppy syndrome” [1]. People really need to be coached to even say a personal achievement let alone sell it when apply for jobs. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

I had never heard of this syndrome! I think it can be found in Europe as well. The post was really illuminating. I don't know the Indian culture very well, but now I can understand why sometimes Indian resumes are so lengthy, difficult to parse, and essentially filled with air.

I've heard "the tallest blade of grass gets cut first" in the US, although Google says it's either a Russian or Assyrian proverb originally.
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