As an American company, are they subject to GDPR regulations?
Zoom still don't understand GDPR
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Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#82I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".
The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
I love Jitsi and have a server VM at home for my personal use.
But while it can share a desktop view I didn't think it allowed control?!? Man, this could be a family support game changer...
Edit:
requires Electron app it seems. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases
Was on HN, some comments suggest the Electron app bundles Chromium.(Not sure if all Electron apps do this, I know nothing about Electron..yet.) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22830846
Edit sub basement 2: Yes, Electron apps include Chromium. "it combines the Chromium rendering engine and the Node.js runtime."
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View". Is this a browser limitation or something? I think microsoft teams has the same issue.
Browsers do generally have a limit on simultaneous outgoing connections per domain[1] - it could be related to that. (This is also why e.g. TFS breaks down when you open too many tabs). [1] https://docs.pushtechnology.com/cloud/latest/manual/html/des...
I doubt that has anything to do with it. Zoom almost certainly handles composing the image for gallery view server-side; you're not maintaining a separate connection for each participant.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#84It's unfortunate that they bought and destroyed Keybase [1] in a bid to improve their security and even still there seems to be no improvement. Guess even the best folks can't make an impact if company culture prevents it. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/commit-activity
Yeah this was so sad, but I'm happy the guys that made it got paid. Even they would have known this was the end for Keybase. Hopefully when their non-compete clauses end the developers will make another product the same.
> Yeah this was so sad, but I'm happy the guys that made it got paid.
I don't really sympathize with this. You build something, get a ton of people to use it, advocate for it, get their friends to use it... I think after that, you have a responsibility to those users, and selling to a company like Zoom and then peaceing out on further work does not fulfill that responsibility.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#85*doesn't
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cookies are just temporary passwords. It's like Zoom goes through your temp password database to change your saved password for zoom.
Except you are UNinstalling the application? What cause is there to save anything that isn't already there at that point?
I mean, if you had zoom installed on desktop you there's a high likelihood that you will use zoom again. By leaving that cookie, they are making the web experience better the next time you use it.
Then again, planting a 10 year cookie that can only exist when edited outside the browser's sandbox is a helluva effective long term marker for a particular person. Maybe they just want to keep tabs on you. :)
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View". Is this a browser limitation or something? I think microsoft teams has the same issue.
Browsers do generally have a limit on simultaneous outgoing connections per domain[1] - it could be related to that. (This is also why e.g. TFS breaks down when you open too many tabs). [1] https://docs.pushtechnology.com/cloud/latest/manual/html/des...
Do you happen to know why TFS causes this? Does it leave connections open in each tab? Otherwise it should not matter how many tabs we have open I think.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Zoom is an american company Correct. But it has significant dev in China. Corporately, it’s American. But when describing its engineering decisions, it’s fair to call it principally Chinese.
Would you call Cisco and Dell principally Indian companies?
Why not, if that’s where a majority of the teams making engineering decisions are?
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ...in a bid to improve their security Not specific to Keybase, but a lot of "cyber security firms" these days base their entire business on gross violations of privacy, unfortunately.
What?
They're not wrong. A large amount of the basically exist off gross privacy violations. Fingerprinting, gross PII sharing and overstorage, port scanning users' computers and LAN from their browser behind the FW/NAT for "security purposes",
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
I love Jitsi and have a server VM at home for my personal use. But while it can share a desktop view I didn't think it allowed control?!? Man, this could be a family support game changer... Edit: requires Electron app it seems. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron/releases Was on HN, some comments suggest the Electron app bundles Chromium.(Not sure if all Electron apps do this, I know nothing about Electron..…
All Electron apps are Chromium-based.