It seem Zoom is so big that a small bone to pick on can yield clicks for them.
a desktop uninstaller messing with chrome cookies isn't a small bone imo
Zoom still don't understand GDPR
61–70 of 267 posts
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#62I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".
The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
MS Teams has the same behaviour in web client. Is it browser-level restriction?
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#63Are you trying to say that a Chinese app doesn't care about your privacy? That's new
Zoom is an american company by the way. Its headquarters is in silicon valley. Its founder, chairman, and CEO is an american citizen. It has employees in California and China, like nearly all tech companies.
> Zoom is an american company
Correct. But it has significant dev in China. Corporately, it’s American. But when describing its engineering decisions, it’s fair to call it principally Chinese.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#64Does anyone expect any consequences? It’s not like any EU member would ban Zoom in the middle of the pandemic.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Worth mentioning that the author speculates that this happens not for a nefarious reason, but in a binary tree search to locate your zoom cookie.
Further, it's a SQLite database. It's not like it's hard to check this behavior, or instrument the database file to see exactly what it's doing. It was really odd they didn't bother. https://imgur.com/a/jBaW7RL
What tools would you use to instrument a sqlite file in order to monitor reads?
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#66I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".
> And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View". Is this a browser limitation or something? I think microsoft teams has the same issue.
Discord also has a gallery view for web, so it’s definitely technically possible
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#67I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".
> And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View". Is this a browser limitation or something? I think microsoft teams has the same issue.
Browsers do generally have a limit on simultaneous outgoing connections per domain[1] - it could be related to that. (This is also why e.g. TFS breaks down when you open too many tabs).
[1] https://docs.pushtechnology.com/cloud/latest/manual/html/des...
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
Do you really think controlling your local desktop is an API feature that web browsers should provide to web apps?
Stated "Should local desktop control API be widely available to web apps and be commonly used?", the answer is surely no.
"Should local desktop control be a feature that can be enabled through web browsers for users who choose to use it with certain sites?" Eh, this is not so clear. What if by some magical turn of events Zoom decided on a drunken whim that user privacy is very important, and strongly encouraged use of web over desktop, should they just axe that feature? Back in reality, Zoom couldn't even consider that course of action until the web supports it.
Maybe do it by requiring users to install an extension that's granted remote desktop permission for a particular site. Which would at least allow the extension to be reviewed and audited.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#69C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?
I’m curious if the same is happening on Mac or Linux when uninstalling.
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
#70I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".
> they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link I wrote a browser extension that will transparently redirect all zoom links to user their web client: https://github.com/arkadiyt/zoom-redirector
That's brilliant, thank you for making me aware of this!