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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by rory096 »

willis936 wrote: post #23

Anytime I try to pursue the UFO question I feel like I’m being intentionally gaslighted by government agencies. The public-ish analysis of UFOs, AATIP is an incredible farce. They focused on star trek warp drives and after the funding dried up they started hanging out with Blink 182 to smoke weed and pat each other on the back for being crazy alien believers. These aren’t sound scientific minds that are capable of an…

>If I put on a tinfoil hat I could say that the AATIP’s purpose was to instill doubt that aliens exist, but that would imply that they do exist.

I thought it was well established that AATIP existed to be a means for a well-connected paranoid billionaire to have his senator funnel him millions in government contracts to keep his floundering mismanaged space hotel business afloat.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

sambull wrote: post #31
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

There is definitely some sort of disinformation campaign, I guess its aimed at other nations. [0] I'm guessing this is part of the campaign, or else maybe alien tech? [1] I'll assume its to make someone else think we have tech we may not have. [0] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29232/navys-advanced-a... [1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjwkw/bob-lazar-says-the...

> aimed at other nations.

Does anyone have one of those world heat maps for "belief in UFOs" by country?

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by gpderetta »

djsumdog wrote: post #63
CalChris wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the stealth fighter was not in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. The F-117 was delivered in 1982 and operational in 1983. It was 'declassified' in 1988 and displayed in 1990. And it wasn't even a fighter. It was for ground attack. https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-117.htm

I thought maybe the poster was talking about the SR-71, but it too didn't stay classified for very long.

A-12 did stay classified for a while.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by b06tmm »

Tistel wrote: post #77

I have heard a couple of podcasts that had some very credible US pilots talking about this. I think detecting life on other planets or aliens here would be great (so long as they are not trying to kill me yada yada). But, the most down to earth explanation is signal/sensor warfare testing. Bare with me for a moment. The web is part of the sensor array of a spider. There are species of insects that tap on spider's web…

When I was in the Navy (1977 ~ 1981), our A-6E was equipped with an ECM suite that was designed to intercept and process pulse signals, automatically select the optimum countermeasures technique, and then apply the technique. One of these countermeasures was to send a return signal back to the radar, "telling the radar that the aircraft had accelerated (beyond the speed of light) and was now on the opposite horizon. The effect of this was reported to be a snapping off of the radar mast or tipping over of the mobile trailer the radar was in due to the torque of the radar dish moving to the new location.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by wonderwonder »

baybal2 wrote: post #70

I think if we ever see an alien, he will either fly to us in a completely enormous nuclear rocket which we will spot years before his arrival and deceleration. This is in the case if there is really no other way to traverse stars besides conventional rocketry. But in case if there is a way to trick any of the fundamental physics we know after all, then very likely the guy will come right at our porch, and they've pro…

This assumes they are not coming from some giant station on the other side of our sun, parked there for the last several hundred years. They could also be anywhere in our solar system, that our technology is not advanced enough to detect. We cant really keep track of all the space rocks floating near us and they aren't trying not to be seen.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by corporate_shi11 »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Naval patents of far fetched sounding room temperature superconductors and similar things may indeed be part of a disinformation campaign, but that does not mean the sightings of tic-tac shaped objects and other radar and pilot observed anomalies are part of the campaign as well.

What could be the case is that the observed tic-tac UFO's are real alien craft, about which word is now leaking out, but the US military is now using the confusion surrounding them for their own purposes. Hey, why not use the confusion for our own advantage.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by godelski »

sixQuarks wrote: post #6

something smells fishy. He never looked at the object with his own eyes. C'mon. How can you not verify with your own eyes whether this thing was real or not? He says he was trying to capture the best video for later analysis. He couldn't have just glanced at the object for a second to make visual confirmation?

It's really hard to see other flying objects when you're flying. Any pilot can confirm this. It can even be hard to see something within a mile! But at 20 miles, good luck finding it. Better to just trust the instruments.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by nradov »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Any potential adversaries are smart enough to realize that if the US military had really invented a fundamental breakthrough they wouldn't be spending a fortune on the B-21 program.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

b06tmm wrote: post #84
Tistel wrote: post #77

I have heard a couple of podcasts that had some very credible US pilots talking about this. I think detecting life on other planets or aliens here would be great (so long as they are not trying to kill me yada yada). But, the most down to earth explanation is signal/sensor warfare testing. Bare with me for a moment. The web is part of the sensor array of a spider. There are species of insects that tap on spider's web…

When I was in the Navy (1977 ~ 1981), our A-6E was equipped with an ECM suite that was designed to intercept and process pulse signals, automatically select the optimum countermeasures technique, and then apply the technique. One of these countermeasures was to send a return signal back to the radar, "telling the radar that the aircraft had accelerated (beyond the speed of light) and was now on the opposite horizon.…

That's hilarious! Somebody probably had a lot of fun coming up with and testing that idea.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by goodcanadian »

jijji wrote: post #49

last week a story came out quoting an air force general saying that "technology exists that could transport a human anywhere on earth within an hour" [0]... [0] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31445/recently-retired...

Sounds like he was referring to a suborbital rocket flight.
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