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Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by logicprog »

wowaname wrote: post #42
Pfhreak wrote: post #7

> I refuse to provide phone verification as I believe it is Discord's fault for flagging my account... > I will be communicating with a couple communities with which I'm involved to explain that I am unable to use Discord Does this person not have a phone? 'Unable' seems like a stretch. If this person said, "I don't want to provide my phone number to Discord, so I'm going to stop using it" I'd understand. Their openi…

Just a note: I do not ask to have my blog entries submitted to this site, precisely because the comments I receive here are very assumptuous and negative. I have had prior interactions with Discord which influenced the tone of my E-mail. My blog post is simply presented as-is and I really do not care what others have to say about it, but I have no control over what is submitted here. I just want people to keep this i…

If you're worried about the full context not being understood, maybe add the necessary details? It doesn't have to be every possible detail, but you seem to have a clear idea of what context is missing, judging by your comment. So why not add it?

Also, if your blog isn't meant to be read by people that don't know the context of your life already, making it public seems like an odd choice, especially when you say things that might be taken the wrong way.

Also. If you really didn't care about what others said about it, why are you responding to such comments and displaying indignation? Why are you here at all?

And re: the blog being pink, do you really think it's because there's an "adults/men can't like pink" prejudice going around on this very liberal site? Or maybe it's because pink (unless done right) is like neon green: not a very aesthetic choice?

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by justaj »

wowaname wrote: post #54
mostlysimilar wrote: post #3

I understand the frustration on the part of the user and I dislike that we're all being forced to give up our anonymity to use these platforms... but also the tone of both emails was quite antagonistic. They may have had slightly better luck if they'd been friendlier and not attempted to school the Discord staff on how their app should behave.

Someone else suggested I should have done the same, but again, I've had prior issues with Discord and really just wanted to be done with it. This account issue set me back a little, and I can't participate in some communities I'd like to, but I've already talked to moderators for some of the guilds that I played a big part in, and they were happy to set up a Discord to Matrix relay for their main channels. Matrix isn…

Have you considered using Matrix and ditching Discord altogether?

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by oceanghost »

wowaname wrote: post #76
oceanghost wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He says he's using tor to access Discord. While there's nothing inherently wrong with that, the IP addresses of his exit nodes are probably flagged as frequent sources of abuse. People underestimate how hostile the internet truly is. I run a small website for a friend-- I'd say 90% of our traffic is spam/exploit fishing. I have at times blocked whole countries because we didn't have any business in that region and th…

If you couldn't gather from my name on the sidebar and the overall site theme, I'm not a guy :p And yes, you're right about Tor IPs being flagged at greater frequency. That's fine, but I've had a clean account for over a year and have had no prior incidents. And a lot of abuse comes from IP addresses not related in any way to Tor, as well.

Would you have preferred the female equivalent? Doll/sweetheart/dame? :-)

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by JohnFen »

wowaname wrote: post #55
jacquesm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but also the tone of both emails was quite antagonistic The customer is always right. > They may have had slightly better luck if they'd been friendlier and not attempted to school the Discord staff on how their app should behave. Or not. Besides, it should not matter, either they did something bad or they did not, the tone of the message may upset the recipient but when you ban someone just like that you can expec…

For free services, I'm the product, not the customer. I understood this and used Discord regardless, because at the time it was the easiest way to talk to certain communities (mostly gaming related). If I was using Nitro, I'd have to agree with you, but I had a clear stance not to give a dime to a company I do not support.

Most of these "free services" are very far from free. They cost (and sometimes cost a lot). It's just that what they charge isn't in the form of currency.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by runlevel1 »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #58
esotericn wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Force is more aggressive than language. In that sense, bureaucracies are aggressive by default; that they use friendly language doesn't change this. Imagine that one day, your car locks you out, and there's a smiley face and it says "oh hey, just call this number dude". Is that any less aggressive simply because it's 'friendly'? Of course not. In many ways it's worse - because it's almost sarcastic (it's not _really_…

Yep, lots of people are stuck on the civility of words these days, and completely ignore the civility of actions and their consequences. People get mad and yelling about a war, absolutely unconscionable and should be disregarded and ignored, however thousands of people dying in said war, well at least nobody said bad words publicly about it, everyone was polite and civil when the decision that they should all die was…

I'm reminded of the hollow "thoughts and prayers" platitude.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by simonblack »

Social media gets less and less "social" every day.

My last remaining social media with input from me is HN. But I accept that, sooner or later, HN will be just as intrusive, aggressive, just plain nasty and censoring as the rest of them. And then it will be time for me to "go completely dark" as far as my contribution to the internet is concerned.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by vageli »

jrockway wrote: post #64
elmerfud wrote: post #2

This is a typical response from service companies in the Internet age. They don't care about truth, or what actually happened, the algorithm says you're bad then you're bad. There's no human to appeal to, no human oversight of if their algorithm is right or wrong. They use another algorithm to check it, which tells them that you must be a bad actor. I've had my own issues with Lyft that are similar. Banned from using…

To be fair, I don't think humans have any way of verifying that you're trustworthy. Anyone can send email from your email address. Anyone can fake a driver's license. Anyone can get a phone number that meets their criteria. Knowing who someone is on the Internet is nearly impossible. Knowing whether or not to trust someone once you know who they are is nearly impossible. There is no system of human corporation trust…

> To be fair, I don't think humans have any way of verifying that you're trustworthy. Anyone can send email from your email address. Anyone can fake a driver's license. Anyone can get a phone number that meets their criteria. Knowing who someone is on the Internet is nearly impossible. Knowing whether or not to trust someone once you know who they are is nearly impossible.

American banks seem to have no issue with this.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by VectorLock »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #41
kart23 wrote: post #18

Tor breaks a lot of shit for me, and I dont even bother with captchas becuase it usually just flags me as a bot. So I dont think this is particularly surprising or out of the ordinary. But yeah, discord used to be held in high standards by me and plenty of other gamers, but they have made it clear that they cannot handle tough situations, and dont really care about their userbase. Someone should start a privacy focus…

Google captcha is particularly egregious because it will flag you as "never allow in, ever" but not give any indication of this, and still will happily have you solving captchas (that is, working for Google, for free) for 30+ minutes, until you catch on that they aren't ever going to let you past. Captcha v3 is even worse in this regard, because it silently flags you while appearing to let you in...

I like this idea since it puts a lot of effort onto bad actors and exhausts their resources.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by wowaname »

logicprog wrote: post #81
wowaname wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a note: I do not ask to have my blog entries submitted to this site, precisely because the comments I receive here are very assumptuous and negative. I have had prior interactions with Discord which influenced the tone of my E-mail. My blog post is simply presented as-is and I really do not care what others have to say about it, but I have no control over what is submitted here. I just want people to keep this i…

If you're worried about the full context not being understood, maybe add the necessary details? It doesn't have to be every possible detail, but you seem to have a clear idea of what context is missing, judging by your comment. So why not add it? Also, if your blog isn't meant to be read by people that don't know the context of your life already, making it public seems like an odd choice, especially when you say thin…

>If you're worried about the full context not being understood

>if your blog isn't meant to be read by people that don't know the context of your life already

People who have followed me online enough to have my blog in their feedreader or bookmarks, they'll all know why I'm approaching the issue how I do. You seem to blame me for your and others' eagerness to jump into discussions about things I didn't even link on here. Hacker News was never my target audience. That aside, reading the newer comments I can see a lot of people who do actually take a bit more time to see my background and develop a fuller opinion on my blog piece, so evidently I already must have all the information needed to come to an informed conclusion about what I write. Maybe it's just a problem for most people to assume ill-intent out of my writings that aren't even meant to attack anyone.

>why are you responding to such comments and displaying indignation? Why are you here at all?

If someone defames your image, you're telling me you would just shut up about it? You'd just let people keep kicking you in the gut while you're minding your own business? Again, stop excusing your negative actions.

>not a very aesthetic choice?

https://wowana.me/about.xht which is very clearly linked on the site, explains that I'm happy with the theme. It's my website; it only matters if I myself am content with how it looks. There's reader mode in many browsers now, I offer an Atom feed for consumption in a reader that strips that styling, and better yet, people like you don't have to read my site if you have nothing good to say about it.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by throwaway2048 »

VectorLock wrote: post #88
throwaway2048 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google captcha is particularly egregious because it will flag you as "never allow in, ever" but not give any indication of this, and still will happily have you solving captchas (that is, working for Google, for free) for 30+ minutes, until you catch on that they aren't ever going to let you past. Captcha v3 is even worse in this regard, because it silently flags you while appearing to let you in...

I like this idea since it puts a lot of effort onto bad actors and exhausts their resources.

Cool, lets hope it doesn't consistently consider you a "bad actor" for reasons that it wont ever tell you.
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