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Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by davidmurdoch »

akeck wrote: post #27
scarygliders wrote: post #4

I was hoping to read that it might also help people like myself who suffer from tinnitus. Sadly, no. Still, if it can restore hearing to the deaf, this is a good thing.

YMMV (from Reddit thread): --- Strong temporary relief from tinnitus: Place the palms of your hands over your ears with fingers resting gently on the back of your head. Your middle fingers should point toward one another just above the base of your skull. Place your index fingers on top of you middle fingers and snap them (the index fingers) onto the skull making a loud, drumming noise. Repeat 40-50 times. Some peopl…

Just tried this for the first time and my mild tinnitus (usually only notice it when people bring up tinnitus or after a long flight) just got a bit quiter! Very interesting!

Note: by the time I finished writing this the ringing was back at "full" volume.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by yawaramin »

zeeed wrote: post #35
xtracto wrote: post #25

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I myself have tinnitus as well. Curious if you have tried the Notched music approach ( https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1630358227661185623... ) or the Neighbouring Tones ( https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1037530052919306668... ) approach. Apparently both of the have had some kind of success in treating tinnitus. Unfortunately for me, they work better for "lower" frequencies. My tinnitus is around 10…

I’m affected as well, noise damage. Had seen the papers coming out a while ago and desperately waiting for something that becomes available “for the masses”. Do you know of any existing self-treatment (e.g. an app that applies a notch filter on acting as a Spotify client) or do you happen to have any reference to more specific treatments that might be available on the market?

This one really helped me a lot a couple of years ago when my tinnitus suddenly worsened: https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/neuromodulationTonesGenera...

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by morcheeba »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #66
rootbear wrote: post #63

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> loud music at a bar called power tools Please tell me this was a gay bar. If it wasn't, it should have been. I have some upper range hearing loss that's more or less consistent with my age. I also have tinnitus and ADHD, so I'm interested in the comments about how all these things may be interrelated. I definitely struggle to hear conversations in noisy environments and I always assumed it was high frequency hearin…

Anecdotally, tinnitus sometimes improves with magnesium supplementation. It takes time though, on the order of several months, to see results.

Here's a review of the studies: https://www.tinnitus.org.uk/tinnitus-and-magnesium

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Post by alecst »

socen wrote: post #76
proyb2 wrote: post #47

I was diagnosed with Sudden Sensorineural Hearing Loss years ago and haven’t found any cures despite some kind of Chinese acupuncture wasn’t of help.

I as well was diagnosed with SSH about a year and a half ago. This was shortly after I fell on my head in a yoga handstand class. I went to an Audiologist/ENT and was classified as having Meniere's and ultimately there was nothing I could do according to the doctors. I accepted this as truth because that's what the experts say and my Meniere's wasn't so bad at the time. Over time, the symptoms got worse and it was un…

Yea same, correcting my posture and doing some mind-body work has made my symptoms go away basically. I'm still improving to this day almost a year later.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by Groxx »

RankingMember wrote: post #49
MS90 wrote: post #46

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Yeah, hearing people over background noise is probably the thing that I struggle with the most. It's been a pretty big social hindrance, especially when I was in college. In crowded social areas like bars and restaurants it's very difficult for me to understand what people are saying. As a result, I ended up being the weird guy just sitting there not saying anything all night because I was unable to carry on a conver…

As someone with full spectrum hearing, a lot of those environments are awful for me too. Just miserable to be practically yelling to be heard and then needing to cup your hand over your ear to make out what they're saying, often just giving up and nodding and hoping that a "nod" response makes sense in the context of whatever they said.

fwiw: I've found it a fair bit easier to hear others with earplugs in (when it's noisy around). especially the concert-goer ones, at least in part since they usually reduce volume less (normal foam ones reduce 30db or so, which is quite a bit).

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by nosianu »

bitwize wrote: post #67
sparkzilla wrote: post #43

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This is very interesting. Can you point me to some articles or further resources?

GP appears to have diagnosed himself with chronic metal poisoning, and doctor-shopped until he found a physician willing to make his self-diagnosis official and prescribe all the oral chelators he convinced himself he needed a priori . Chronic heavy metal toxicity is a subject rife with quackery and pseudoscience, especially when people start talking about chronic poisoning undetectable by conventional medicine. It's…

I had blood and urine and hair with high mercury levels - but according to you remote comment diagnosing "specialist" I'm a psycho.

Also, my jaw was in a bad state - a needle meant for mucosa injection went right deep in - in exactly all the places where I had had amalgam fillings. Nothing ever showed up in x-ray - which is normal, bone damage shows up in x-ray only when it's extreme (although a needle easily penetrating bone already is quite extreme). The doctor injected DMPS (chelator), the jaw healed.

Also, an double-size right-side thyroid with a nodule, stable for 2.5 decades, within half a year completely disappeared to the great amazement of my endocrinologist who had recommended surgery. There was lots of activity in the tissue around that area in my neck starting after I got chelation.

Warts on my feet, getting more and more numerous over the decades, completely gone.

Winter depression, psoriasis, colds (before diagnosis lasting the entire winter, getting longer and longer), eye issues, comprehension issues, digestion was bad and now is wonderful, - a long list of stuff JUST GONE NOW.

Look in a mirror for who is the quack, not to mention that with your accusation and remote diagnosis you are being quite an asshole.

The doctor I'm seeing is a researcher at a university clinic and always talks in "studies" and is very careful, never making any promises, always cautious with recommendations, preferring to do as little as possible. When I went there he said I must have something else, the levels of mercury found justify chelation treatment but are not high enough to explain all my problems. He never found anything else and improvement was far exceeding expectations. With chronic poisoning most of the stuff is hidden and comes out slowly, so yes, lab measurements usually cannot show it, I was "lucky" I had such highly elevated values. The doctor also makes no money - the university clinic charges a tiny bit (Germany, not US, it's next to nothing because there is nothing expensive, no medical imaging, just a few cheap lab tests, the chelators, DMPS and DMSA, some minor additions, are extra but inexpensive).

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by nosianu »

sparkzilla wrote: post #43
nosianu wrote: post #34

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So... okay, I did not want to go public at first and emailed privately, but since there are others, and why not: I too had tinnitus for a long time and it all went away after chelation treatment against chronic mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings after being lucky that it was diagnosed (I had to actively search for a rare researcher/university clinic doctor specialist, nearly no chance with normal doctors). See m…

This is very interesting. Can you point me to some articles or further resources?

In case you get comment notifications and are still looking for a reply, I responded to the remote comment diagnosing "specialist".

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Post by 8fingerlouie »

akeck wrote: post #27
scarygliders wrote: post #4

I was hoping to read that it might also help people like myself who suffer from tinnitus. Sadly, no. Still, if it can restore hearing to the deaf, this is a good thing.

YMMV (from Reddit thread): --- Strong temporary relief from tinnitus: Place the palms of your hands over your ears with fingers resting gently on the back of your head. Your middle fingers should point toward one another just above the base of your skull. Place your index fingers on top of you middle fingers and snap them (the index fingers) onto the skull making a loud, drumming noise. Repeat 40-50 times. Some peopl…

I don't have a medical degree, but i do have mild tinnitus, and what i've found works the best for me is to simply stop paying attention to it, which is of course harder than it seems.

Most days i don't even notice it, until i notice the absence of it, which will promptly make it "return", or like now when i'm reading an article about it, and i'm very aware of it.

I then simply try to ignore it the best i can, and with a little practice you can "make it go away" to the point where you're not noticing it anymore. Don't ignore it by thinking of it, as this will surely make you aware of it. Ignore it by simply not thinking about it.

And as with all things you pick up on the internet, YMMV.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by fouc »

Quite a few hearing impaired people had their cochlea hairs "burnt" by audiotoxic drugs. More specifically, they caught a serious infection in the meninges when young, and aggressive drugs were needed to save their lives.

It would be amazing if these cochlea hairs could be repaired.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by MS90 »

MaximumYComb wrote: post #73
MS90 wrote: post #30

I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I have significant hearing loss in both ears from infections as a baby, and the doctors always said it was because the hairs in my cochlea are dead. I was denied a few opportunities when I was younger due to my hearing, and I still can't hear most higher frequency sounds (whistles, some cymbals, smoke detectors, fire alarms...etc). It would be nice to be able to hear what…

Lots of very rich men who were balding now have hair. Treatments are out there but I think they must be very expensive. See Elon Musk

Lewis Hamilton has had an impressive regrowth. He even gets his styled into cornrows and stuff like that, so the new hair is definitely in there firmly if it can withstand that type of thing. I'm curious as to what he had done, transplant or some kind of other treatments.
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