Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear • Hacker News Board

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by technofiend » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 9:12 PM UTC

SubiculumCode wrote: post #55

MS90 wrote: post #46

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Yeah, hearing people over background noise is probably the thing that I struggle with the most. It's been a pretty big social hindrance, especially when I was in college. In crowded social areas like bars and restaurants it's very difficult for me to understand what people are saying. As a result, I ended up being the weird guy just sitting there not saying anything all night because I was unable to carry on a conver…

I am going to venture and say this is not related to the ear apparatus, but in perception processing. I believe this type of deficit has been associated with ADHD, and other neurodevelopmental disorders/variations.

I'm sure that it could exacerbate things, but in my particular case if you graph my hearing response to various frequencies it looks like a valley or a capital V.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by rootbear » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 9:16 PM UTC

technofiend wrote: post #70

rootbear wrote: post #63

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> loud music at a bar called power tools Please tell me this was a gay bar. If it wasn't, it should have been. I have some upper range hearing loss that's more or less consistent with my age. I also have tinnitus and ADHD, so I'm interested in the comments about how all these things may be interrelated. I definitely struggle to hear conversations in noisy environments and I always assumed it was high frequency hearin…

>Please tell me this was a gay bar. If it wasn't, it should have been. Heh. I thought someone might have had that reaction to the name. From the Houston Press: Power Tools A long-gone cousin of Numbers, Power Tools is still a sacred name (not to mention a powerful memory) among Houston's industrial/goth/EBM crowd, with the downtown subterranean space now occupied by hip-hop/EDM-heavy Kryptonite. Like a few of its kin…

Pity, it's a perfect name. I went to a gay Country Western bar in Houston back in the early 90s and got lost getting there when going through an insanely complex set of highway over passes. It was a fun bar when I finally got there.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by MaximumYComb » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 10:12 PM UTC

MS90 wrote: post #30

I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I have significant hearing loss in both ears from infections as a baby, and the doctors always said it was because the hairs in my cochlea are dead. I was denied a few opportunities when I was younger due to my hearing, and I still can't hear most higher frequency sounds (whistles, some cymbals, smoke detectors, fire alarms...etc). It would be nice to be able to hear what…

Lots of very rich men who were balding now have hair. Treatments are out there but I think they must be very expensive. See Elon Musk

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by WilTimSon » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

randlet wrote: post #42

akeck wrote: post #27

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YMMV (from Reddit thread): --- Strong temporary relief from tinnitus: Place the palms of your hands over your ears with fingers resting gently on the back of your head. Your middle fingers should point toward one another just above the base of your skull. Place your index fingers on top of you middle fingers and snap them (the index fingers) onto the skull making a loud, drumming noise. Repeat 40-50 times. Some peopl…

Have tried this a couple of times with zero relief unfortunately. I have conductive hearing loss due to otosclerosis (plaque buildup on stapes) so that might be why it doesn't work for me.

I'm fairly certain this is a case-by-case kind of "remedy". A friend of mine had terrible tinnitus and this did not help him at all. I wonder if this has something to do with bone structure or, perhaps, depends on the severity of the condition. Still, it's solid advice that should be spread wide in case it helps some people.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by torgian » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 11:18 PM UTC

Hell yeah. I have tinnitus from my time in the military, and this would be a huge thing. I hope it comes to fruition in the next several years.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by socen » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 11:52 PM UTC

proyb2 wrote: post #47

I was diagnosed with Sudden Sensorineural Hearing Loss years ago and haven’t found any cures despite some kind of Chinese acupuncture wasn’t of help.

I as well was diagnosed with SSH about a year and a half ago. This was shortly after I fell on my head in a yoga handstand class. I went to an Audiologist/ENT and was classified as having Meniere's and ultimately there was nothing I could do according to the doctors. I accepted this as truth because that's what the experts say and my Meniere's wasn't so bad at the time. Over time, the symptoms got worse and it was unbearable. My quality of life was at the lowest point of my existence and I had to do something. I did some research and found an article documenting people with Meniere's and how a specific niche of Chiropractic has helped them. This isn't the original article, but it's a copy of it:

https://drthomasforest.com/menieres-disease-treatment/

I did my research and started going to this doctor and within weeks I was getting relief. Now it's been about 6 months since I started treatment and I would say my hearing is back to normal for about 2 months now. I'm not saying this would resolve your SSH issues, but it's an avenue worth looking at especially if the article makes sense to you.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by unicornfinder » Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 12:04 AM UTC

SubiculumCode wrote: post #55

MS90 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, hearing people over background noise is probably the thing that I struggle with the most. It's been a pretty big social hindrance, especially when I was in college. In crowded social areas like bars and restaurants it's very difficult for me to understand what people are saying. As a result, I ended up being the weird guy just sitting there not saying anything all night because I was unable to carry on a conver…

I am going to venture and say this is not related to the ear apparatus, but in perception processing. I believe this type of deficit has been associated with ADHD, and other neurodevelopmental disorders/variations.

This. I have fantastic hearing, but I really struggle with this sort of thing due to differences in perception.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by brokenmachine » Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 12:12 AM UTC

RankingMember wrote: post #56

SubiculumCode wrote: post #55

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I am going to venture and say this is not related to the ear apparatus, but in perception processing. I believe this type of deficit has been associated with ADHD, and other neurodevelopmental disorders/variations.

As someone with attention issues, I've wondered if this contributes to my issues in loud environments. I feel like it's a blend of "your brain is being overwhelmed" and "this place actually sucks for everyone".

AFAIK I don't have any hearing loss. I wouldn't say that I have attention issues but I can't stand distracting environments - I enjoy loud music if it's a concert and that's what I'm there for, but otherwise I can't stand it.

I agree with your assessment. I pretty much don't go to bars because of the suckiness. You can't have a worthwhile conversation, so it's just constant drinking in an oppressive environment.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by mikedilger » Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 12:31 AM UTC

MS90 wrote: post #46

technofiend wrote: post #32

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Yours is worse than mine but same root cause and probably exacerbated by power tools and loud music (and loud music at a bar called power tools) later on. There's a huge dip in the middle of my hearing range so I can hear the clink-clink-clink of pint glasses in a pub but people speaking to me over it is a struggle.

Yeah, hearing people over background noise is probably the thing that I struggle with the most. It's been a pretty big social hindrance, especially when I was in college. In crowded social areas like bars and restaurants it's very difficult for me to understand what people are saying. As a result, I ended up being the weird guy just sitting there not saying anything all night because I was unable to carry on a conver…

A trick that always worked well for me was to plug my ears. I could discern voices much better that way. Otherwise it just sounded like a speaker being overdriven.

Re: Proteins That May Restore Damaged Sound-Detecting Cells in the Ear

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Post by newsreview1 » Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 2:19 AM UTC

I have read other studies by Dr. Angelika Doetzlhofer, and she is brilliant. I am heavily involved with disability law, and have had two very close associates who have received treatment aimed at inner-ear hair stimulation for balance issues. The study of molecular impediments to mammalian hair cell regeneration could not only change lives for those who have hearing loss, but also for those who suffer from balance issues. Thank you for the share!