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The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

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My team were using HipChat and had to find an alternative when they sold off to Slack. They actually offered a really good discount to move over. But as the company already recently moved to O365 and Teams is free within that, I thought I'd give it a try. My team hated it, I tolerated it. Until one day I'd just had enough of the UX that Teams brings. The biggest issue was the threading; it truly beggars belief. We en…

> That being said, the Teams UX will slowly and steadily improve

You think that they people who brought us "The Word Ribbon" and Metro UI are going to make things better?

That's not how M$FT rolls. Their customer base is deathly allergic to change. They lose their minds if things change perceptibly from what they looked like when they bought the system.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#83

Is there a reason that companies don't just use discord?

Is there an enterprise hosting option? Any open source options? If no, and no, there is your quick answer. Also, the target user base and UX of the application make it unsuitable for a wide range of business cases.

I think something like Discord for Business could be an amazing opportunity for growth. This isn't the first time I've seen someone bring up the idea.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#84
Main issue killing me with Teams is that the desktop client can't be joined to two servers (at least, last time I checked). As a contractor, I have a Teams at my company and a Teams at my client, and I had to pick one, which is terrible.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#85
I had the misfortune of renaming a file that was shared in Teams and we were chatting about. This completely broke it so if you click on it you can see the chat but it won't open and has the error "This item might not exist or is no longer available".

You can now only open it from Sharepoint and changing the name back didn't fix anything. Thanks teams.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#86

For extra fun, block access to the telemetry endpoint and watch Teams' memory footprint bloat to crazy levels as the data accumulates and re-attempts the sending. There's some fun inspecting this data, too..

I don't use the windows partition on my laptop for this reason. Once Unity and my steam has Linux support, I never looked back. Only issue is Matlab sometimes.

What are you using Matlab for? Ever try Octave, Scilab, or Julia?

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#87
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our CEO gave up on slack long ago. Email is the best way to get their attention.

Slack and Teams are different. Slack has muting. Teams does not.

I guess not all CEOs know what muting a channel means.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#88
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use teams at work. Most people i know cant stand it. Its chatoix UI. 10 tabs on each «teams». Ive deleted the app. Whenever someone tags me i just open their browser app, reply and close. Even having the tab open sometimes causes cpu and memory spike and my laptop fans starts wirring. If they kill skype/lync for teams, MS is making a huge mistake. Lync and Outlook are the most distraction free softwares we use.

Skype for Business (Lync) was discontinued in July, and support will stop July 31, 2021.

Hold up, what? I was using it until last week (I'm no longer with that company), and it was the semi-de-facto IM solution, because the entire team isn't on Slack, and worked well enough to serve our needs- the person we want to talk to is at another location right then (we moved around a lot) and we needed to talk to them.

Discontinuation is news to me.

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#89
post #30

BTW, what happened to Outlook on iOS recently? Three months ago it was snappy, started immediately and notifications were cleared the moment messages were read; these days it takes ~5s to start, unread notifications stay for another ~5s after the message is read, confusing me about having new mail, and if the same mailbox is set up on two iOS devices, only one gets notifications. Is old Microsoft back?

And I still can’t set urgent priority on a reply

Re: The Horror of Microsoft Teams

#90
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> "[caching/searching] is awful on any platform. It’s not clear what the bounds are for any search and only a very brief history is cached locally. Everything else has to be fetched remotely so scrolling is painful and searching glacial." I've felt this frustration with Teams and Slack. Effective search in any real-time messaging platform seems difficult to deliver. Has anyone else had this problem and found a good s…

> Effective search in any real-time messaging platform seems difficult to deliver. Has anyone else had this problem and found a good solution to it? Log chats to text files and learn `grep`. Keep chat logs organized in a daily/weekly/monthly/yearly directory hierarchy. I think many people would be amazed at just how fast their disk can read tens or hundreds of MBs of chat logs; how fast `grep` can find what you're lo…

Interesting approach. I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
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