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Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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Microsoft and Apple do business in China, yet somehow it's Google that's apparently working with the Chinese. These people are honestly out of their mind.

? The logic is really not too complicated. China is using AI to spy on citizens -- Google is creating and freely publishing state of the art versions of this AI. It's pretty clear that there is a worry here.

I always find reasoning like this to be weak. Why is it on Google that China is run by the morally bankrupt?

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Anyone who thinks Google executives are exfiltrating core IP to China clearly hasn't ever used Baidu, the leading Chinese search engine that makes Bing look good.

The reasons why you consider Baidu not as good are probably not technical, but are due to censorship and Baidu's abandonment of non-Chinese websites and pages.

Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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>When Google leaks the personal data of millions of Americans Google+ was hacked and leaked the data of users. No one knows how many because Google deleted the logs.

Google+ was never hacked, but there was a dodgy API endpoint that let you view profile data set to private.

So it wasn’t hacked, it just had an exploitable end point, that was exploited?

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Thiel has switched his allegiance to New Zealand from USA so I don’t understand his talks of treason. He is founder of Plantir which has mission for spying on American citizens and using tech for military without any concerns to ethics whatsoever. This is a guy who bankrupted journalist news media because they dared to publish about him. I am not sure how far Thiel can go to establish himself as one true tech villain…

Peter Theil's actions are pretty questionable without your incredible attempts to paint gawker as anything besides a trashy, disingenuous tabloid. I've heard other parts of the company were decent but their bread and butter was the trashy stuff. He can still be wrong to have funded their destruction even if they suck too.

And what about Palantir and its spy software ? Guy also supported Trump. Seems to be nothing but cashing in on the nationalism wave.

Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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Bloomberg goes a long way to avoid saying that Thiel was speaking at the National Conservatism Conference , a conference with a very biased audience in mind. Just look at the other speech titles like "The Nationalist Awakening". Can this be taken as anything but pure propaganda?

Do you have reason to disagree with any of the facts he presented?

You can't just throw around the word treason. More than Google Fb should be investigated.

Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft and Apple do business in China, yet somehow it's Google that's apparently working with the Chinese. These people are honestly out of their mind.

? The logic is really not too complicated. China is using AI to spy on citizens -- Google is creating and freely publishing state of the art versions of this AI. It's pretty clear that there is a worry here.

Perhaps it is Linus Torvalds who is the real villain, making freely available a crucial piece of software that China is using to power its surveillance infrastructure. I say we put him to death for his treasonous actions against the free world.

Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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Is he the new Joseph McCarthy ???. Instead of Slavic commies we now have to look for Asian commies behind every bush ???.

There was a time in San Francisco when everything was blamed on "Chinese steel" until we suddenly found out that Dyson Steel is from Ohio. Then there was deafening silence. Tribalism is a powerful drug.

Re: Thiel Urges U.S. Probe of Google's 'Seemingly Treasonous' Acts

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I once met Peter Thiel at an event and kindly asked him if he ever had a 'Robert Oppenheimer moment' with his investment in Palantir. Not surprisingly he diverted and did not provide an answer at all. His non-answer was most telling to me and made me think about his ethics. At least a certain level of reasoning or even PR spin about the positive effects would have been better than this. I left deeply unimpressed about our first and only encounter.
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