I think this redesign will go the way Digg did.
Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
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Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#82I can't stand the new reddit. I always browse the site with https://old.reddit.com/ Just replace www with old.
Me too, but you must know that they will turn it off at some point.
i.reddit.com is dramatically older and is still there.
There's no need to ever turn it off. New users will overwhelmingly use the new design (if they don't think it's fine, how would they ever become engaged enough to even find out that there's a different option?) and eventually it's just something that makes some long-time power users happy and everyone else doesn't care about.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#83Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#84The new design is slow as mollasses. It's ugly. It doesn't provide direct access to both the shared link and comments. Managing text formatting is slow and painful. The only positive point is the Ctrl+enter shortcut to post comments. I always use old.reddit.com.
This is the first HN comment I have seen that actually describes what about the new design makes it unusable. Most that I have seen are "The new design is unusable! Everyone agrees with me! I use old.reddit.com and do not use the new design!" A few comments point out that nothing loads without errors, but that's not a design problem -- that's an implementation problem. With that said, I am throwing my hat into the "I…
I just checked, opened https://old.reddit.com/r/france :
less than 2 seconds, the page is fully loaded.
Tried https://www.reddit.com/r/france/: more than 4 seconds before the page is loaded.
Loading : https://old.reddit.com/r/france/comments/ccs5tx/emmanuel_mac...
is about 2 seconds. Loading: https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/ccs5tx/emmanuel_mac...
about 6 seconds.
The new reddit looks therefore 2 to 3 times slower.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#85The new design is godawful and unusable, especially without JavaScript. Switching to old.reddit.com is a breath of fresh air. The juxtaposition seems like an ideal case study in how bad modern web design is. I swear it's almost like web designers are trying to make things worse.
>I swear it's almost like web designers are trying to make things worse. They are, because the business wants you to download the app.
This kind of clueless, smug cynicism is one of the worst parts of internet comments. It's why basically every comment section on Reddit is a vapid circlejerk.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#86The new design is godawful and unusable, especially without JavaScript. Switching to old.reddit.com is a breath of fresh air. The juxtaposition seems like an ideal case study in how bad modern web design is. I swear it's almost like web designers are trying to make things worse.
It’s not the designers’ fault, it’s developers seeing everything as a technology problem rather than a user needs problem (and I’m speaking as a developer). The best solution for any given problem is usually the simplest, at least until you find that you specifically need extra complexity to solve a user need. Unfortunately modern client-side development is fixed in a mindset of developer efficiency above all, which…
responsive sites and mobile apps have led to the mobilification of desktop sites. there is absolutely a branding/marketing/design trend pushing shiny over usability. ive noticed it in banks in the last 5 years, where they have replaced dense powerful beautiful text based interfaces with giant versions of their mobile apps. huge buttons, minimal screen density.
https://m.signalvnoise.com/why-i-love-ugly-messy-interfaces-...
i liked the old reddit BECAUSE it was a simple list of links that all behaved exactly as a link should when i click it, and didnt attempt to put visual flair over usability.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hadn't seen notabug before. Visited the site and this was the current top post (censored by me): "Should I complain about a nXXXXr cashier braying like a donkey?" That's not a great first impression... As a side note, anyone know how to do multiple asterisks on HN? Backslash doesn't seem to work as an escape character.
No doubt. The people at notabug, mostly, are the most abrasive assholes that have been pushed out from other sites. They're not good people. You gotta be the change you want to see. I often post about technology and science there. But I'm simply not enough to make the frontpage always tolerable to people that can't ignore assholes. Sometimes there are strings of racist posts but that's still better than corporate cen…
> But notabug, at heart, is about not censoring. Even for people who suck and say shitty things.
Then you can keep it. What I look for in a social media site is learning interesting things, and having rewarding conversations with people. Notabug sounds like it's neither of those.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not the designers’ fault, it’s developers seeing everything as a technology problem rather than a user needs problem (and I’m speaking as a developer). The best solution for any given problem is usually the simplest, at least until you find that you specifically need extra complexity to solve a user need. Unfortunately modern client-side development is fixed in a mindset of developer efficiency above all, which…
> It’s not the designers’ fault, it’s developers seeing everything as a technology problem rather than a user needs problem Yes, but in a big company developers don't define the product, (product) designers do.
“Big company” developers: do you call yourself “Unit 3829” or “autonomous drone 283”? Because seeing comments like above so frequently, you’d think developers are sacred and never do wrong but have no free will or input.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#89It's recently started triggering the 'a webpage is slowing down your computer' message on Firefox for me, which is a pretty good sign they're doing something crazy.
Re: Ask HN: Is “new” Reddit completely unusable for anyone else?
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone know if they have public metrics on www vs old visitor traffic?
I'm not sure about public data, but here is what I'm seeing from one of my larger subreddits: https://i.imgur.com/YPUvYiu.png Looks like new is gaining on old.
i would expect a default to always gain, people get worn down constantly changing default settings, and new users dont know about it because it isnt well advertised.