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>Most of the rest comes from family farms growing rice, maize, manioc root (like sweet potato) and plantains (similar to banana) these aren't refined, but they arguably aren't the healthiest for you
Why not?
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Carbs are great if you're actually going to use the energy! The best even! The problem with Western habits is we tend to carb load until we have a tremendous excess of energy which we then use to... sit down for several hours while our body gets busy turning all that unused energy in to fat.
Exactly. Humans are meant to move, and not moving makes us fat. Now that we're extremely sedentary, we literally have no use for the amounts of rice and pasta we consume. We're victims of our own success.
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#83"It means: 72% of calories come from carbohydrates compared with 52% in the US 14% from fat compared with 34% in the US, Tsimane also consume much less saturated fat Both Americans and Tsimane have 14% of calories from protein, but Tsimane have more lean meat" That really does seem counter to the low-carb diets that seem to be all the rage among internet communities (also HN). But, maybe it's just the constant exerci…
>That really does seem counter to the low-carb diets that seem to be all the rage among internet communities (also HN). Generally people discussing “low carb diets” really mean managing blood glucose/insulin spikes. So high glycemic carbs, refined sugars, refined carbs. Not all carbs are created equal when we talk about impacts on blood glucose and/or the liver.
It sounds logical, but I don't know if it's really useful if you're not diabetic.
Edit: the book is called "The Personalized Diet."
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#84Another fact about Bolivians ... they are, on average, the shortest people in the world. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-short...
Oh! Short stature, mountainous country near the equator - means the least gravity affecting their circulation! Natural heart-healthy situation!
I'm on my cellphone so I don't have the paper on hand, but there was a big study where they compared lung cancer rates in different geographic areas and found that the highest cancer incidence was at sea level, whereas the lowest was at higher elevations. They tried controlling for other obvious variables but elevation was unquestionably the best explanation.
Oxidation may explain plaque in arteries.
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To add to your point Okinawans once had the greatest life expectancy on Earth and the majority of their diet was carbs too. Since the introduction of “western diet” post WW2 the majority of their diet is still carbs and yet they now show significant increase of Chronic disease (obesity, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease and kidney disease) and lowered life expectancy.
What is that disease attributed to? Do you know?
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It's almost as if human experiences don't fit into the carefully curated categories we have in modern society where individual aspects are considered in isolation and not handled in a holistic way. It's as if: the need for meaning, relationships, sleep, body, teeth, eating, professional development, daily routine, sitting, walking, how we walk, our individual body constructs, personality archetypes, mental health, et…
This is because I can change a thing but I can't change my whole life. Well, I can, but that's hard and single things are easy.
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#88"The Tsimane get 72% of their energy from carbohydrates. The fact that they have the best indicators of cardiovascular health ever reported is the exact opposite to many recent suggestions that carbohydrates are unhealthy." Refined carbs ARE unhealthy and it's a bit disheartening that they didn't make that distinction in the article.
To add to your point Okinawans once had the greatest life expectancy on Earth and the majority of their diet was carbs too. Since the introduction of “western diet” post WW2 the majority of their diet is still carbs and yet they now show significant increase of Chronic disease (obesity, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease and kidney disease) and lowered life expectancy.
The government clued in and investigated and it turns out that Okinawan doctors were making a tidy profit by agreeing not to file death certificates. This enabled families to continue to claim pension benefits on behalf of their supposedly aged relatives.
After the the smoke died down the went back and looked at Okinawan life expectancy taking pension fraud into consideration and discovered that it was pretty much exactly the same as the rest of Japan. The original life expectancy/diet studies had relied on government information rather than actually interviewing people. I'm sorry I don't have a citation for you as I saw this in a documentary in Japan on TV.
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Yeah very strange they do a breakdown of what percentages each diet has, but not the overall caloric intake. If you consume 5000 calories a day, it really does not matter how healthy your macros are. I wonder what the results would show if they did a similar study but compared people of similar body compositions. Who has the healthiest population of people with a BMI of ~20.
Upper level athletes eat 5000 calories a day just fine, though they tend to have better macros
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They have different impact on blood glucose and insulin
According the the following, sucrose has a glycemic index of 65. Plantain has 55. Brown rice has 68. Does the glycemic index say anything about impact on blood glucose and insulin levels? https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glyce...
Another way to look at this is that refined sugar is the sugar with all the other things that would have lowered the glycemic index taken away. If you add it back, the index will be lowered again. If I eat refined sugar from sugar beets and accompany it with the fiber, etc from the processing, the glycemic index will be the same as eating sugar beets. So it doesn't matter where the carbs are coming from, it only matters if you are mixing it with fibre, fat and protein.