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Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#81

Yes, how dare somebody buy something expensive with their own money!

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They include: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19529100 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#82

There's a similar ongoing phenomenon in Italy as well, with villages selling homes for ridiculously low prices [0]. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/italian-villages-selling-dol...

> Villages across Italy are selling abandoned properties for 1 euro or less, provided that owners take care of the renovations. These renovations are typically more expensive than tearing down the house and building a new one, but that is forbidden, because there is probably some kind of regulation and "historical value". So saying that these are low prices is super misleading

My wife (who is from Italy) looked into the total costs in one place (somewhere in Sardinia), and renovations and all, it's still not that expensive.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#83

The big question is land ownership. Does the buyer get to own the land? Or is it more like a 100-year lease from the state? $100k for large swathes of land anywhere in Europe sounds like a steal to me.

"Ownership" is meaningless. Each region of Europe have their own laws regarding what you can and cannot do with the land you "own" and what duties and rights you get by owning it. For example, you might buy one of these houses but the building codes mandate that you renovate and preserve the exterior. Heck, in some countries you are not allowed to even live in structures outside the habitable region.

Right, that's why I brought it up. In Italy, they were selling houses for $1 but the regulations around it plus the ongoing property taxes change the entire calculus.

Regardless, land is valuable but only if you own it and have some control over monetizing your ownership.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#84

Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

No, I completely disagree with you. Having travelled the world, I feel the worst thing we can do is continue with the big cities. They need to be dismantled, and replaced with smaller, lighter, more local communities that do not require so much energy to maintain - very big city requires immense resources to keep it running, every single day.

More rural living is what will save us, imho.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#85

Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

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Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#86
post #84

Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

No, I completely disagree with you. Having travelled the world, I feel the worst thing we can do is continue with the big cities. They need to be dismantled, and replaced with smaller, lighter, more local communities that do not require so much energy to maintain - very big city requires immense resources to keep it running, every single day. More rural living is what will save us, imho.

Rural areas have a much larger ecological footprint than urban areas, per capita. There's no way around that.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#87
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you say that? Remote is remote, is I'm hiring remote, why would I care if the person is in Spain, Portugal or anywhere else? I'm sure you have context behind your comment and it would be great if you shared it.

At least for US companies, I do see a lot of remote positions that specify that candidates must be US based. Not sure why...

Taxes. Travel. Time zone.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#88
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”The company recently got a boost after Gwyneth Paltrow flagged one of its villages on her website as a good Christmas present.” I thought this was a joke, but clicking on the link reveals that a $172k village in Spain was indeed listed in “gift ideas” alongside such more traditional items as a $7700 Hermès surfboard. As fitting a portrait of our present era’s wealth distribution as any. Future generations may look b…

Im going out on a limb here, but this paltrow lady sounds like a fucking lunatic.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#89
post #84

Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

No, I completely disagree with you. Having travelled the world, I feel the worst thing we can do is continue with the big cities. They need to be dismantled, and replaced with smaller, lighter, more local communities that do not require so much energy to maintain - very big city requires immense resources to keep it running, every single day. More rural living is what will save us, imho.

Do you know what the most energy efficient people moving device is? The counterweight elevator. It's true. Cramming a village worth of people into a highrise, surrounding it with walking distance amenities is by far the most efficient, environment friendly way of supplying said populace. Yes, you need trucks to stock said stores but then again, no matter where they live you'd still need those trucks and this way a) economies of scale apply b) they don't go anywhere in single use cars. Instead of going rural, cities with mass transit is the way to live if we are this many. Reducing the populace slowly would be a strategy but it's not what the reality is.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

#90
post #4

”The company recently got a boost after Gwyneth Paltrow flagged one of its villages on her website as a good Christmas present.” I thought this was a joke, but clicking on the link reveals that a $172k village in Spain was indeed listed in “gift ideas” alongside such more traditional items as a $7700 Hermès surfboard. As fitting a portrait of our present era’s wealth distribution as any. Future generations may look b…

Heck, just look at the thread on the cancellation of Apple's wireless charger. Part of me wished I could post a gif of the daunting and terrifying task of putting a phone in a docking station.

You say that in jest, but that is actually how this process works. Remember when touchID came out and many people mockingly thanked Apple for not having to enter 4-6 digits? Now how many people get pissed off when their wet thumb doesn’t read right and they have to enter their pin?

People get used to new luxuries.

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