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Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by christkv »

reidrac wrote: post #12
rdl wrote: post #9

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work remotely who would love to live in a place like this, if it were either turnkey or at least if there were some collective action organization. Makes even more sense in Portugal, though -- you could live in a place for 182 days/yr, after putting 350k euros investment into it, with a grant of portugese citizenship. I'm sure there are similar villages/properties in rural…

It may be tricky to do remote work from one of these places. In Spain, rural areas may not have broadband at all. You may have phone line, but the quality is so bad that not even ASDL is usable.

Asturias in Spain has quite a lot of villages with 100/100 mb fiber due to a private public partnership. Our house in the little hamlet proaza has had that for ten years already.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by ekianjo »

rdl wrote: post #10
y4mi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not unique to Spain though... And neither surprising, tbh. Who in their right mind would even want to live without stable electricity, good waste management and all the other things you take for granted in even small villages ( There is literally nothing there besides some houses. That's enough to take a break on some holiday... But very few people would be willing to suffer through that long term

Technology has advanced. You can do reasonable off-grid utilities (solar/battery/water/waste/internet) for 25-100 people at grid-level prices.

That does not make up for the lack of services in the area.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by deanalevitt »

deanalevitt wrote: post #23

The big question is land ownership. Does the buyer get to own the land? Or is it more like a 100-year lease from the state? $100k for large swathes of land anywhere in Europe sounds like a steal to me.

I'd be curious about taxes and other costs involved in ownership.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by rujuladanh »

reidrac wrote: post #12
rdl wrote: post #9

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work remotely who would love to live in a place like this, if it were either turnkey or at least if there were some collective action organization. Makes even more sense in Portugal, though -- you could live in a place for 182 days/yr, after putting 350k euros investment into it, with a grant of portugese citizenship. I'm sure there are similar villages/properties in rural…

It may be tricky to do remote work from one of these places. In Spain, rural areas may not have broadband at all. You may have phone line, but the quality is so bad that not even ASDL is usable.

Not at all. One does not need to go to a ghost village to to what OP says, and many towns in Europa have even fiber.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by iagovar »

y4mi wrote: post #3
MordodeMaru wrote: post #2

It's a pity Spain country side is becoming a vacuum.

It's not unique to Spain though... And neither surprising, tbh. Who in their right mind would even want to live without stable electricity, good waste management and all the other things you take for granted in even small villages ( There is literally nothing there besides some houses. That's enough to take a break on some holiday... But very few people would be willing to suffer through that long term

There are plenty of small villages like that. You can even expect DSL from 1 to 6mbps, and 3G depending on the size of the place. Some of them even more.

The vacuum is mostly in Castilla y León and Castilla-La Mancha. As some of you may know regions in Spain have state-ish status, and Castilla y León actually does a surprisingly good job on education, healthcare and pretty much every social service. I'm sayin this because they have been ruled by the good old corrupt party since I have memory, have tight budget and is sparsely populated.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by kgwgk »

jxub wrote: post #13
ben_w wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My siblings were interested in buying an old place in the Spanish countryside as a BTL holiday home, but heard some worrying things about the Spanish legal attitude to inheritance that put them off second hand places. (I won’t repeat what they said; they are neither lawyers nor speakers of Spanish so I give their fears no more than 50% credence).

An "interesting" fact of Spain is that all unwritten inheritance goes to the state, and this includes foreigners. Therefore, makes sense to lay down 200 bucks or so in lawyer fee and write the inheritance asap.

Interesting, but untrue.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by iagovar »

ez7r6i wrote: post #18
y4mi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not unique to Spain though... And neither surprising, tbh. Who in their right mind would even want to live without stable electricity, good waste management and all the other things you take for granted in even small villages ( There is literally nothing there besides some houses. That's enough to take a break on some holiday... But very few people would be willing to suffer through that long term

No healthcare, no chemists, no good Internet access, have to literally travel to buy clothes or go to the supermarket, and especially no jobs. Even in big towns jobs are scarce. Hence the asphyxiating housing bubble in big cities. It just makes no sense to live in any of those ghost villages. Unless you're some wealthy screwhead who can't stand the smallest amount of street noise.

Well, it's inconvenient but in many regions you can call for a doctor visit, for example. The Castilla y León healthcare system has rural doctors that visit this places periodically.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Post by GordonS »

misterhtmlcss wrote: post #19
ez7r6i wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rural areas of Spain usually have decent 4G service. Good luck getting hired for remote work in Spain, though. Edit for the guys below: obviously I meant working for a Spanish company.

Why do you say that? Remote is remote, is I'm hiring remote, why would I care if the person is in Spain, Portugal or anywhere else? I'm sure you have context behind your comment and it would be great if you shared it.

At least for US companies, I do see a lot of remote positions that specify that candidates must be US based. Not sure why...
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