of course my websites work in china. i get hitup dailey by suppliers.
So you want your app/website to work in China
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#82Can I use a separate ip address for requests from china somehow?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.
No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet. They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). Sounds like you need educating on the differences.
>> China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.
> They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network).
I kinda think you just made his point for him. The corporate networks that are walled off in that way are often called "intranets."
Also, local Chinese websites are often significantly walled off from the rest of the internet (though through local-phone-number registration requirements, not firewall rules).
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#84I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
Perhaps the open Internet is the aberration here. Look at my post history - while I’d like it to be otherwise I honestly believe the Internet as we know it will Balkanize/fragment - it’s a matter of time.
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#85I want the opposite. I want to block China and Russia and a few other countries that constantly try to hack my site.
You can block whole countries with the free CloudFlare tier. (Or give them CAPTCHA style challenges)
Can you now? A while ago it's possible to block countries in the free tier, but it was a bug and they reverted.
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#86I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
the internet will become impossible to censor (for everyone - it’s already easy for the rich to avoid censorship) when satellite connections become cheaper / faster / more accessible
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#87Not that this is a recommended solution, but VPNs work from inside of China.
I lived with some Chinese students while I was exchanging and basically they said most people that want out of the Fire wall can just VPN out with no repercussions expected. Not that it’s ideal, but some commenters seem to believe that people in China have no access to the outside world which just isn’t true.
Before the internet the USSR could censor effectively, but now it’s pretty hard with encryption being as good as it is.
Of course there are people in China that don’t know that VPNs exist, but I think it’s an important nuance to mention that many people are able to have an open online experience.
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#88if there is anything remotely dynamic in your app go with option 2. i've mainland proxied and cached the hell out of everything i can, warm the caches daily, but once the user starts interacting (eg search) then hitting our servers really bites randomly. usually not so bad for honkers server, but even that route can randomly drop off the face of the planet.
hmm, option 3 looks interesting. i would need to test it to have confidence in it (especially over problematic periods like golden week), but having your server in honkers is a big plus over the other side.
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#89I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
the internet will become impossible to censor (for everyone - it’s already easy for the rich to avoid censorship) when satellite connections become cheaper / faster / more accessible
Only when it is not possible to direction-find a transceiver and place their owner in jail would satellite connections transcend censorship.
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#90My best best advices are not listed there - Stop using Google CDNs - Stop using Google fonts - Don't put Google Analytics in the header (or don't use it) otherwise will block/delay the browser load the website. Most of the websites just timeout because of those 3 things and make the website imposible to navigate. If you host your website in a normal VPS, without using Google services you will have a quite nice chance…
Just leaving this here:
https://coincircle.com/l/50VVxbObg3