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Here's hoping it has something to do with turning iTunes into a web app/store.

I'm not trying to make a not-so-subtle dig on Apple by saying this, but I don't own an i(Phone/Pod/Pad) or a Mac computer, so I don't use iTunes, which is horrific on Windows. I make most of my digital purchases on Amazon, who has a very effective web store of digital downloads at competitive prices. If iTunes were a web store, I'd be much more inclined to buy stuff from them.

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I think I might be the only person on HN who actually luv- luv- luvs iTunes, and I say this as someone who once wrote his own MP3 player interface out of extreme music-player-fussiness. The "kruft" ship sailed the minute I downloaded Firefox.

Nope, not the only one. I don’t use an iPod, or an iPhone, or an TV, but I think iTunes is wonderful as a PC music player. It beats the pants off everything that came before (remember all those music player apps whose selling point was that they had pretty, customizable “skins”?), and hasn’t really been challenged by anything since. For all the talk of bloat, the changes and additions over the last few years to the…

And that is probably why you like it so much. Because you're not forced to use it for anything and everything Apple-related on the desktop.

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Being forced to use iTunes to sync Music, Podcasts and Audiobooks (and play position!) is the most ridiculous and non-Apple user experience I've ever seen of any Apple product. It gets especially bad once you add multiple iDevices and use them for the same purpose over different time spans. Example: If I get home and want to continue listening to the current podcast on the iPad, I have to first sync my iPhone and the…

> "awful time slider" awful? I think it's fairly clever, myself. ... you do know that when you touch to 'grab' the nubbin, you can slide your finger down the face of the device a bit, and then when you slide left or right it scrubs more slowly, based on how far down the device you slid?

Did not know that. Thanks for the tip.

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Perhaps they're moving away from "Tunes"? It was a music player. Now it's a music, video, book, and app store and media center, as well as a connection hub for all of your accessory devices. I have a feeling that whatever they announce tomorrow will only be a proliferation of this trend. "iTunes" has got a ton of brand awareness, but we've seen them appropriately drop "Computer" from their company name and "Phone" fr…

Unlikely as they just released iTunes 10.1 last week. I don't see them pushing another iTunes client release within 2 weeks.

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I think I might be the only person on HN who actually luv- luv- luvs iTunes, and I say this as someone who once wrote his own MP3 player interface out of extreme music-player-fussiness. The "kruft" ship sailed the minute I downloaded Firefox.

Nope, not the only one. I don’t use an iPod, or an iPhone, or an TV, but I think iTunes is wonderful as a PC music player. It beats the pants off everything that came before (remember all those music player apps whose selling point was that they had pretty, customizable “skins”?), and hasn’t really been challenged by anything since. For all the talk of bloat, the changes and additions over the last few years to the…

> sorting by album by artist, adding a “sort by” metadata field, improving the organization of playlists, “smart” playlists, and playlist folders, views organized by album art rather than text, improvements to the column browser, &c

I don't know enough about the history of music players to say whether iTunes created those innovations (though I'd be surprised, except for the album art one), I can say for sure most any other media player these days will do those. And while the bloat can be turned off, I still found it to be have ridiculous start up time on Windows. It would take 10+ seconds just to open. I've said this on HNs before, but switching from iTunes to foobar2000 was by far the best software decision I've made, perhaps just barely behind switching from IE to Firefox. For the longest time I just took it for granted that iTunes was the best music player, but when I looked at the alternatives (pre-update Amarok, foobar2000, etc), I really found iTunes was a lot worse than I thought it was. The only feature I've come to miss are smart playlists, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a foobar plugin for them.

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Being forced to use iTunes to sync Music, Podcasts and Audiobooks (and play position!) is the most ridiculous and non-Apple user experience I've ever seen of any Apple product. It gets especially bad once you add multiple iDevices and use them for the same purpose over different time spans. Example: If I get home and want to continue listening to the current podcast on the iPad, I have to first sync my iPhone and the…

Wouldn't that would be pretty much entirely fixed by login-based wireless sync and cloud storage? Or are there issues with those services, too?

That's what I want. It doesn't even have to be cloud storage. I don't need my music in the cloud - I can sync that to the device directly.

But I want my internet connected mobile always-on device to be capable of a) checking for new podcast episodes over the air and b) wirelessly synchronizing the play position of various files across devices. Both operations are /trivial/.

I'm even willing to pay a small subscription fee for this.

I'm a really heavy podcast and audiobook listener. For me there is value in being able to come home, turning on my ipad and continuing to listen to my podcast where I left off on the iphone.

Or arriving at home and having the latest video podcasts already downloaded to the iPad without having to manually connect it to the PC (but after the iPhone or I'll lose the play position).

Or being able to listen to the newest episode of a podcast even though it came out after I left home.

That last one, I can already do in theory. It involves starting the itunes app on the iPhone and manually searching for the podcast, checking whether the latest episode has arrived.

Of course this is limited to podcasts actually on iTunes (no manual RSS download) and it sometimes seems to download the episode independently of the existing itunes subscription at which point I have two identical episodes the next time I connect the iPhone. No syncing of play position in that case.

What pains me the most is that I certainly have the ability to fix this on my own by writing my own podcast syncing code, but on a non-jailbroken device I don't get write-access to the itunes library and even if I could get it, it probably wouldn't sync back to the PC.

To use the common open source "I scratched an itch" metaphor: It's itching like mad, I have the ability to scratch and the needed tools, but no permission to actually do it and the itch scratching licensing board doesn't recognize my itch as something worthy of their scratching.

This is infuriating.

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I don't care what it's called, I dream of termination with extreme prejudice of the Carbon based, kruft-filled, all-in-one, un-Apple, sync-nightmare currently called iTunes.

I think I might be the only person on HN who actually luv- luv- luvs iTunes, and I say this as someone who once wrote his own MP3 player interface out of extreme music-player-fussiness. The "kruft" ship sailed the minute I downloaded Firefox.

I like some things (Genius, the smart playlists, podcasts), am indifferent to a large swath of others (the store, video, radio, DJ, home sharing, library sharing, visualization) and am brought to a white-hot nun-punching rage by the (finite but unbounded) set of bugs, warts and misfeatures.

Why can't I have my view settings sticky across all the various views? Why do you INSIST on showing me the utterly useless genres by default? Why, in list mode, when reverse sorting an album by year (to, say, play your Cows collection from most recent to oldest) it reverses the track ordering? That last one, by the way, is marked "Works as Expected". Works as expected.

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    At the office where the papers grow she takes a break
    Drinks another coffee and she finds it hard to stay awake
    It's just another day
    It's just another day
    It's just another day

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Movies, including rentals, and TV shows are already available in the USA, Canada, UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, France and Germany.

and Switzerland apparently. Since last week.. No TV shows though.

Each country gets access to much much smaller down list of steams, movies, books, tunes and even apps versus the USA store. As a result many of us have to use a USA iTunes ID as well, which is painful as it means access to a US credit card with a US address, which is painful after 911 rules etc. My hope would be a genuine merging of all of the country-nased iTunes store to create one world store. That may not be a big deal for US based customers, but an enormous deal for the rest of the world.
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