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Post by tptacek »

J3L2404 wrote: post #48
tptacek wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You dream of them using a different word than "Tunes"? You need to read more fiction.

I don't care what it's called, I dream of termination with extreme prejudice of the Carbon based, kruft-filled, all-in-one, un-Apple, sync-nightmare currently called iTunes.

I think I might be the only person on HN who actually luv- luv- luvs iTunes, and I say this as someone who once wrote his own MP3 player interface out of extreme music-player-fussiness. The "kruft" ship sailed the minute I downloaded Firefox.

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Post by ajg1977 »

Since they've just released a new client, and people always eagerly scan the plist's looking for nuggets of information, I think it's safe to assume that it won't be anything client related (sorry, no WiFi syncing or cloud storage). So it's almost certainly Store related.

It's interesting that Japan get a clock (no Australia, which is a bigger market). Just last week Japan got the ability to purchase & rent movies, and that this announcement comes so soon after is probably not a coincidence. So something with the store, and something to do with movies.

Making this big a deal of an announcement, so close to the holiday season, makes me think that it's also something that is intended to give people a reason to buy Apple hardware.

Side note: Back when AppleTV2 was unveiled, Jobs said that you would be able to rent movies "day and date" with DVD releases. That hasn't been true to this point - embarrassingly Iron Man 2 which he demonstrated on stage wasn't available for rental until the DVD had been out for some time.

So I'm going to go with better movie rentals - earlier availability (perhaps much earlier, for a premium), possibly bundled movies, possibly the removal of the stupid contractual stuff where some movies become unrentable due to TV deals and hampers the library.

I'm sure Apple would love to give lots of families a reason to buy themselves an Apple TV's for Christmas this year, particularly with Boxee/Google now pushing into that market.

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Post by kacy »

I thought Ping was writing on the wall that they were going to go start a streaming model, but I may be wrong. Alone, Ping sucks. It's a limited social site because you can't really access the music that you're friends are sharing. It's Spotify, Mog, Rdio, and Zune without the streaming service.

My guess is that they wanted to release streaming in September, but the labels weren't completely on board at that point. They needed something to show in the new iTunes, so they released Ping.

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Post by grandalf »

roc wrote: post #44
pilif wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being forced to use iTunes to sync Music, Podcasts and Audiobooks (and play position!) is the most ridiculous and non-Apple user experience I've ever seen of any Apple product. It gets especially bad once you add multiple iDevices and use them for the same purpose over different time spans. Example: If I get home and want to continue listening to the current podcast on the iPad, I have to first sync my iPhone and the…

> "awful time slider" awful? I think it's fairly clever, myself. ... you do know that when you touch to 'grab' the nubbin, you can slide your finger down the face of the device a bit, and then when you slide left or right it scrubs more slowly, based on how far down the device you slid?

for serious audiobook use, it's pretty crude.

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Post by replicatorblog »

e1ven wrote: post #15
treblig wrote: post #9

Perhaps they're moving away from "Tunes"? It was a music player. Now it's a music, video, book, and app store and media center, as well as a connection hub for all of your accessory devices. I have a feeling that whatever they announce tomorrow will only be a proliferation of this trend. "iTunes" has got a ton of brand awareness, but we've seen them appropriately drop "Computer" from their company name and "Phone" fr…

They may do this, but it likely wouldn't be so soon after the iTunes icon change a few months ago- If they were going to drop the brand, they would have done so then.. Or at least not gone through the effort to rebrand.

They could be moving to a new generic name "iWhatever" where there are several subsections each represented with a colored circle and an icon inside. e.g. Blue Circle iTunes, iBooks is an orange circle with a book symbol, etc.

Imagine these icons running vertically down the side of the new "iWhatever" client similar to the way they made the "Maximize/Minimize/Close" buttons vertical in the latest rev.

This would actually be very similar to what Adobe did after it acquired Macromedia and faced the similar problem of having a jumble of apps that worked together, but lacked consistent branding and structure. They assigned everything a color and a "Periodic Table" naming convention which cohesively tied their products together.

http://www.thehighcontrast.com/family-tree/

Another similarity is that most designers hated that change, just as they did the new iTunes icon!

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Post by [deleted] »

chris24 wrote: post #13

This must either be syncing devices over the air or a music subscription service. I think the "never forget" part is important. You will "never forget" to sync your device, ever again. Your computer will "never forget" your music, because it's stored in the cloud.

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Post by igrekel »

jgrahamc wrote: post #30
pavlov wrote: post #29

AFAIK, iTunes movie rentals are still not available outside USA and UK. This could be the launch of global movie rentals. That would explain the Euro-friendly timing of the announcement (7 am California, 4 pm Paris).

You can rent movies in the French store; I've done it.

Same in Canada... you can even rent "some" french movies from the canadian store, from a insultingly small selection tough.

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Post by soren_dahl »

e1ven wrote: post #15
treblig wrote: post #9

Perhaps they're moving away from "Tunes"? It was a music player. Now it's a music, video, book, and app store and media center, as well as a connection hub for all of your accessory devices. I have a feeling that whatever they announce tomorrow will only be a proliferation of this trend. "iTunes" has got a ton of brand awareness, but we've seen them appropriately drop "Computer" from their company name and "Phone" fr…

They may do this, but it likely wouldn't be so soon after the iTunes icon change a few months ago- If they were going to drop the brand, they would have done so then.. Or at least not gone through the effort to rebrand.

Maybe they'll split the brand? iTunes, iMovies as seperate apps and the store on the web?
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