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Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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Being a generalist by nature makes it very hard to build a successful career. I'm a generalist and what I see is the society is built around specialization.

In consulting it pays off to be a generalist.

On my case it helped quite a few times to jump between projects, or to be person that customer would like to ask to jump at an existing issue.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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Being a generalist by nature makes it very hard to build a successful career. I'm a generalist and what I see is the society is built around specialization.

Personally I think being a generalist is ironically is effectively the same niche as yet another specialization. It sounds nonsensical and contradictory at first glance but makes some sense. If you are able to do everything equally well you will likely be out-competed in any given field by specialists (barring say a generally applicable approach flat out being better like an engineer designing tools which can outperf…

Quite right, an area where you also see this is consulting.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.” --Robert Heinlein

Have you ever tried to plan an invasion? Like, actually done a net assessment of a scenario in detail accounting for terrain, equipment, training, intelligence, logistics, and all the other things that go into a military encounter? It is time-consuming and hard. So is efficiently butchering a hog. So is learning to program well. Changing diapers and pitching manure? Not so much. Dying gallantly? Only get to practice…

The quote is tongue in cheek, you should have probably gotten that on plan an invasion.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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I think there is an issue of power/money. If you have power or money you can call yourself a generalist and hire the experts in the various fields you want to assemble.

For the generalist not in a position of power, the dynamic is really different, people won’t hire you to read a book or increase your knowledge on something else during office hours, either you have to be independently wealthy or use family time.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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I mean... good luck finding a system of self organization for seven billion people which doesn't involve people trying to better their situation in some way? I mean I appreciate the sentiment, but 'the economy' might also be what's needed to tip us towards renewables (as people will want cheaper energy, and jobs making it possible). And can it really be neurotic when it's the culmination of seven billion individuals…

I'm quite happy to admit (it's kind of self-evident) that criticism is easier than building. It's a known known now that our economy does end in catastrophe - the collapse of ecosystems (on which all life, ours included, depend) is happening apace, is entirely well-documented, and barely starts to be addressed by shifts to renewables. That's mostly limited to power generation, and in any case climate collapse is only…

> Knowing, as we do, that an ever-expanding economy leads to global collapse

what?

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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Being a generalist by nature makes it very hard to build a successful career. I'm a generalist and what I see is the society is built around specialization.

Personally I think being a generalist is ironically is effectively the same niche as yet another specialization. It sounds nonsensical and contradictory at first glance but makes some sense. If you are able to do everything equally well you will likely be out-competed in any given field by specialists (barring say a generally applicable approach flat out being better like an engineer designing tools which can outperf…

> We usually see a general practitioner first instead of heading straight for a dermatologist about a rash.

Which is why, sadly, most polymaths within tech end up getting stuck at tech support.

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I like how when Richard Feynman's IQ test score doesn't conform to some narrative, HN is in contortions with excuses why the test doesn't matter, but when we come around to the topic of white IQ supremacy, suddenly HN is armed to the teeth with factoids about how g-loaded and circumstantially neutral the mainstream IQ tests are.

Thomas, were the same folks making these comments?

In that case, the question is, why those two groups of people never interact and never discuss with each other? You would expect a discussion or fights between these groups once in while.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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I know this is true from my own experience.

me too, so I just tell people that I know node.js :/

Which is true regardless of your current knowledge of the subject, when you compare against the hordes of people who claim the same.

You likely can pick up node.js baseline knowledge in a week.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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> Look, this essay is ridiculous. It starts by citing Aristotle, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Benjamin Franklin, and then delivers silly things like this definition of a "generalist": >> Someone who becomes competent in at least three diverse domains and integrates them into a top 1-percent skill set. If you take this advice and tone it down a lot, it becomes both reasonable and good. From Scott Adam's Career Advice [0]: >…

Thing is, it doesn't seem to pay, at least in the employment market. Employers want specialists, and pay for them. If your CV is two or three distinct things (I don't mean a selection of languages, or front and back end dev here, I mean distinct skills like say programming and accountancy) it's very unlikely to get you a better salary. In fact if you've diverged from a straight specialism throughout your career it's…

Recently I find this to be the case for me. I consider myself a generalist: engineering (a few stacks/languages), product, business, marketing, leadership and education. Recruiters tell me to focus on one thing on my CV and I feel employers don’t believe I could be even two of those things. For example with my blend of skills I was able to double the traffic, increase leads and social engagement by 5-6x at the last place I worked after my first quarter. My boss didn’t understand what happened and when I recount the steps and results to other people they don’t believe me. After winding down my own startup a few months ago I’ve struggled to get hired. People don’t advertise for generalists and as I remove certain skills and roles/duties from my CV I’ve found the hiring process gets easier. I’d love some advice, even more I’d love to put my skills to work.

Re: Why the world needs deep generalists, not specialists

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Look, this essay is ridiculous. It starts by citing Aristotle, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Benjamin Franklin, and then delivers silly things like this definition of a "generalist": > Someone who becomes competent in at least three diverse domains and integrates them into a top 1-percent skill set. Then proceeds with: > Despite the world’s immense need for polymaths, these individuals seem to be quite rare. That’s because…

Feynman is kinda the counter argument though — I think his IQ was 120ish. Obviously very smart, but his unique insights seem to have come more from a broad base of knowledge and an intensely curious personality vs raw brain power. I don’t think you need to be a genius to make an impact in a lot of fields.

I would have to go back and read my old copy of "Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman" but I recall the story about his participation in the Manhattan Project. The way the story gets told, he quickly gained a reputation as someone who was unafraid to tell the older physicists when their ideas might have flawed thinking in them, and in return they would seek him out as someone fresh out of Cal Tech, trained in all the latest thinking, who could help them stay on track. So he quickly gained a reputation as a brilliant young hotshot, not to be taken lightly, even among the most esteemed Physics minds of the time.
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