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Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'

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Post by ljf » Thu, Nov 01, 2018, 11:40 AM UTC

dvdcxn wrote: post #71

ljf wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For housing = yes it is crazy. For loads of clubs - you'll pay the same. There are hundreds of tiny clubs in London - many offering free or very cheap entry every night of the week. Yes London has a few expensive clubs (that are generally rubbish once you are in if you aren't paying for champagne) - it has loads of great places to see live music, comedy, djs and acts for pocket money. Just pick up a copy and Time Out…

In my experience the drinks tend to be quite a bit more expensive.

They can be, but again you just need to find the right places - yes you'll be lucky to pay less than £2.50 a can.

But yes - if you want cheap drinks, London is not the place to come.

Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'

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Post by digianarchist » Thu, Nov 01, 2018, 12:51 PM UTC

EnderMB wrote: post #43

So, has MyPinPad actually tried raising their salary offering to £100k? I find it very hard to believe they have, because that would be well-above the average for the area. In relation to standard Web Developer roles, it'd be over double what I could expect in Cardiff for a mid-to-senior level role. Their website currently says "up to £60k", and in my experience companies that say "up to" will rarely go to that numbe…

Right. 100k probably included their end of National Insurance, recruiter fees and all that hidden costs that don't end up in a persons final compensation.

Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'

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Post by EnderMB » Thu, Nov 01, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

digianarchist wrote: post #82

EnderMB wrote: post #43

So, has MyPinPad actually tried raising their salary offering to £100k? I find it very hard to believe they have, because that would be well-above the average for the area. In relation to standard Web Developer roles, it'd be over double what I could expect in Cardiff for a mid-to-senior level role. Their website currently says "up to £60k", and in my experience companies that say "up to" will rarely go to that numbe…

Right. 100k probably included their end of National Insurance, recruiter fees and all that hidden costs that don't end up in a persons final compensation.

That's what I initially thought, but even with my rough estimates of around £8500 in NI from the employer, and around £9-10,000 in recruitment fees (assuming roughly 15% of the first year salary, which is already pretty high) - with all of this rounded up to roughly £20k, that's still a full £20k short of what the article says if they were to hire someone for the maximum £60k a year.

The easy argument is that they're full of shit. My guess is that the only way they can attract people to Cardiff is to raise salaries, but even £60k (which is a good salary for Cardiff) isn't enough to stop people from chasing the big bucks in London. They don't want to pay more than £60k, so their alternative is to complain that salaries aren't enough and that the problem is out of their control.

Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'

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Post by flashgordon » Thu, Nov 01, 2018, 5:26 PM UTC

nhkssol wrote: post #38

otras wrote: post #17

Onboarding and dividing work between 100 engineers is hard. Makes me think of Brooks' law: " Adding human resources to a late software project makes it later ." [0] MyPinPad's careers page [1] lists four positions (Android developer, iOS developer, senior devops engineer, and services developer) with the same " salary up to £60,000 per annum, depending on experience " for each position. The higher salary makes for a…

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