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Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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>The good news is, if you use a third-party app for archives, such as WinZip, WinRAR or 7-Zip, you won't encounter the bug. I'm not excusing the bug, but 7-zip had been one of the first tools I install on any windows installation since XP, setting it as default application to handle all archive formats it supports, .zip included. I'm surprised to see so many comments about potentially running into this bug, doesn't e…

Unregistered WinRAR for life

I actually bought a license a lot of years ago because I had been using it for many more years already, always clicking that nag screen away, and some day I realized that I would be totally hosed on Windows if there was no WinRAR because it really is the only compression tool that packs good format support with a bearable user interface.

7-zip is okay on the format side since they added some of the newer high-efficiency compression algos, but the UI still sucks compared to WinRAR.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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> If there's one thing the government is known for, it's writing bug-free, efficient software. That's because they're usually required to accept the lowest reasonable bid. As someone who works in the public sector, trust me, we try to get the money to people we know will do a good job. We have to work with the shit we buy every day. We want it to be good. There's just a lot of people willing to put in maximum of effo…

> That's because they're usually required to accept the lowest reasonable bid. Lots of public sector bodies use best-value rather than lowest-bid procurement.

Not in the EU if you have to buy something expensive with tax money. Because the Public Procurement directive says you

* are required to hold a public tender

* Before you start, you create a list of criteria, with a weight for each of them.

* 50% of the weight goes to price.

* Once the process starts, common sense is treated as being bribed.

Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not required to have a working product.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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>the industry and consumers forced their hands with fast update cycles with meaningful feature adds. Yeah, sure. To hell with reliability, let's have features instead. Reminds of chinese android forks.

LOL! I deal with two sets of users. Some are users like you who get emotionally upset about bugs. Then I know others, like me, who simply acknowledge a coding error, or a future fix. It makes dealing with QA difficult sometimes. What should be a scientific CS debugging meeting turns into an emotional tear-filled bug crying session. Why get so upset? Seems "out of scope".

Personal swipes will get you banned here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.

There's an LTS version of win 10 without the constant feature updates. Do you actually support desktop Windows in any of those industries with mission critical desktops? If so, you need to educate yourself. If not, your rant is coming from an uninformed position.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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If you don’t like their os, we don’t need to seize it, just stop using it. There are multiple other ones.

I don't. I have one Windows 7 machine left. Windows 7 was peak Microsoft. Between trying to make desktop look like mobile and adding built-in spyware and ads, it's been downhill since then.

MacOS works very well. And if you don’t like Apple hardware, so do many Linux distributions (Ubuntu is very popular and easy to get support for), and even FreeBSD and OpenBSD if you are willing to put in more time.

Most people are better served by NOT windows. Using Win10 without a specific program that isn’t available for macOS/Linux is bordering on masochism.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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> That's because they're usually required to accept the lowest reasonable bid. Lots of public sector bodies use best-value rather than lowest-bid procurement.

Not in the EU if you have to buy something expensive with tax money. Because the Public Procurement directive says you * are required to hold a public tender * Before you start, you create a list of criteria, with a weight for each of them. * 50% of the weight goes to price. * Once the process starts, common sense is treated as being bribed. Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not…

As someone who had to deal with them from both sides, EU public procurement laws are fucked up beyond repair. There is, however, a simple cure for software that the public sector is avoiding in most places:

1. base the software on an established, battle-tested open source product, there is one for almost any business case

2. use the money to hire an in-house team, hiring norms in public sector at least ALLOW for quality selection, unlike public procurement ones

3. develop in the open, invest into visibility, attract community members

4. shill, try to get as many agencies across your and other member states to pick the same solution and co-develop the software with you, this way the cost drops for everyone

Even if you can't find something to satisfy point 1., the other three points would still work to your benefit. If you can push this for long enough to make the software standard in more places, you could get a critical mass of outside developers to form consultancies you could hire later for additional work.

I know Munich is poster-boy of this not working for desktop OS-es but that's really a consequence of two things:

1. They made all the wrong choices (heavy customization, chasing windows look and feel, not tracking upstream progress)

2. They got elected officials who were effectively Microsoft shills (the top-down decision to go back to Windows was heavily pushed by a single executive who was pissed off he couldn't use Outlook he was used to on his previous drone job).

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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I don't. I have one Windows 7 machine left. Windows 7 was peak Microsoft. Between trying to make desktop look like mobile and adding built-in spyware and ads, it's been downhill since then.

MacOS works very well. And if you don’t like Apple hardware, so do many Linux distributions (Ubuntu is very popular and easy to get support for), and even FreeBSD and OpenBSD if you are willing to put in more time. Most people are better served by NOT windows. Using Win10 without a specific program that isn’t available for macOS/Linux is bordering on masochism.

Should have explained better. Everything is Linux except for one last Windows 7 machine.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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This shows what a steamimg pile of incoherent features and behaviours the Windows Explorer has been gradually turned into since Windows 7. It is quite hard for average users to coax that tool into showing an actually honest content of some directory on the hard drive. There are so many abstractions, redirections, alternative view and on the fly translations (only obvious with languages other than English) in there th…

Microsoft seems to think users are idiots. And often they are. But you can't help these people, every solution they come up just creates more idiots who don't know how it works. Some point soon we'll all be idiots who don't know how anything works anymore.

Maybe you can make computers easier to use by providing abstracted, context-dependent views of the data instead. Mobile phones rely on that prerty successfully. But they also do not merge these views with the single file manager the system has. Therein lies the true madness of the Windows Explorer in my oppinion.

If you want to have a view for the barely computer literate average user, (ab-)use the myriad predefined folders in the user profiles and create a launcher for dummies that starts a comtact manager for the address book, a photo gallery for the photos and so on. And hide a file manager in this set of tools that has no stupid extras like forced OneDrive integration and Libraries.

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