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Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by LeoPanthera »

incompatible wrote: post #69
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Selling your personal data as an individual is not going to work (yes, I understand this is a joke posting). If your data has to be re-imported into the various systems that normally exchange consumer profiles (advertising platforms for instance) it will be a net loss, besides that the chances of you hitting one of the properties is nil. So without the association between your profile and your online presence that da…

With a current bid of £113.00, it's working fine.

The first time is always a special case. This reminds me of "the million dollar homepage". It worked once. It will never work again.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by hk__2 »

kelnos wrote: post #70
hk__2 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication. This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with…

> This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with the way Facebook monetize its product. Sure it does. Facebook relies on the concept of peer pressure and people's desire for a sense of belonging to continue to monetize its product. They know that human connections aren't fungible, so they can gain adoption through local monopolies.

> Sure it does. Facebook relies on the concept of peer pressure and people's desire for a sense of belonging to continue to monetize its product.

Every single social network relies on this concept; the way it’s monetized is independant of that.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by newnewpdro »

irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

TL;DR: knowledge is power, surrendering your privacy is giving knowledge about you away, this quite literally translates into giving away power over you.

My core concern with eliminating the gap separating what corporations/governments know and the reality of people's lives is the smaller that gap becomes the less robust our democracy is on a very fundamental level.

The Cambridge Analytica scandal is the first major glimpse of what this enables and how it threatens our democracy.

I encourage you to watch the series The Century of the Self. It's a bit dated by now, but it illustrates a pretty clear lineage easily extrapolated to where we've arrived today.

It's important to protect the privacy of the public. There must be some uncertainty and substantial error when it comes to campaigns to influence the people.

When people say "I have nothing to hide", what they don't realize is that the fact they have nothing to hide is something to hide. The other side certainly has things to hide, and they benefit from having total visibility into what you're aware of.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by rb808 »

nneonneo wrote: post #30

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

lol this is great http://flopstarter.com/1dprinter/

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by Qwertie »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #81
incompatible wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a current bid of £113.00, it's working fine.

The first time is always a special case. This reminds me of "the million dollar homepage". It worked once. It will never work again.

Also the potato salad kickstarter[0]. Raised $55,000 to make a potato salad. Lots of clones appeared and made about $10.

[0] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zackdangerbrown/potato-...

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by [deleted] »

_gfrc wrote: post #58
irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

You are assuming that I am using Facebook. I am not. They have a shadow profile on me anyway, together with my cellphone number and lots of private information, because my friends uploaded it to get access to Facebook Messenger & WhatsApp.

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Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by maym86 »

irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

It's an issue of transparency. I don't mind if I know what it will be used for but "sell me some ads" isn't the only thing it's being used for as we have discovered recently. If Facebook et Al. were more transparent about exactly how it is used then users could decide if the cost is worth it.
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