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I put all my personal data on eBay

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Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by hk__2 »

JepZ wrote: post #54
irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication.

> Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication.

This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with the way Facebook monetize its product.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by bestnameever »

JepZ wrote: post #54
irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication.

I think you either misread the above question, or responded to the wrong parent.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by beiller »

irregular-john wrote: post #37

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

They are "hoarding" the data, IE keeping it away from their competition. If the data was free, it could be used for things like large scale medical studies, instead of blasting my eyeballs with auto-play videos about the product I just finished buying on amazon. How many work hours combined daily on planet earth are lost waiting 5 seconds for the video to play, before continuing to read information required for your job / hobby / entertainment?

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by zehnfischer »

nneonneo wrote: post #30

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

I think it's real data about is actual life though. Kinda blurrs the line

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by JepZ »

hk__2 wrote: post #61
JepZ wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication.

> Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication. This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with…

I think it does. Otherwise it would be simple to just skip Facebook. But if skipping is no option (and no alternative payment method is available), the whole 'analyze my behavior, values and believes' until you learnt how to influence me effectively becomes a problem (at least for those who don't want that Facebook or one of their partners can effectively influence their mind).

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by rdiddly »

nneonneo wrote: post #30

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

lifefaker - That one was like staring point blank down the throat of a beast that eats human futility and status-jockeying, and in the darkened distance you can faintly hear the tortured howling of a million lost souls... in other words, mission accomplished!

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by cjbprime »

bredren wrote: post #8
megamindbrian2 wrote: post #3

I am planning on doing this with my medical record.

Why stop there? Let's see someone auction their whole genome sequence.

There are already hundreds of people sharing their whole genome sequence publicly.

http://www.personalgenomes.org/

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by incompatible »

jacquesm wrote: post #6

Selling your personal data as an individual is not going to work (yes, I understand this is a joke posting). If your data has to be re-imported into the various systems that normally exchange consumer profiles (advertising platforms for instance) it will be a net loss, besides that the chances of you hitting one of the properties is nil. So without the association between your profile and your online presence that da…

With a current bid of £113.00, it's working fine.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Post by kelnos »

hk__2 wrote: post #61
JepZ wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication.

> Just one example: Imagine a group of people where you are one of the few people without a Facebook account. Then there is some group pressure to push you into becoming a Facebook user and since they don't offer a paid service, you either have to convince a lot of people to use some other medium, sell your personal information or accept missing a lot of communication. This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with…

> This is peer pressure and has nothing to do with the way Facebook monetize its product.

Sure it does. Facebook relies on the concept of peer pressure and people's desire for a sense of belonging to continue to monetize its product. They know that human connections aren't fungible, so they can gain adoption through local monopolies.

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