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GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by p49k »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #68
koolba wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly it's a shrinking list and as sites replace static content with things like React it's shrinking even faster. Good: HN works well and handles the downgrade gracefully (ex: upvoting becomes a POST rather than AJAX). Bad: The original Reddit site works ok but the new React based one one fails miserably as it shows a loading screen that never changes.

The new Reddit React site hijacks right-click so you can't even open your responses/user page in a separate tab. Fail. This is how Slashdot.org lost their user base. Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site? But reddit seems to know they suck at websites: you can still access " rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ and even /.compact" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ /.compact for t…

> Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site?

People who are also writing content-based apps and want to write once but still obtain native speeds on mobile? The lack of right-click functionality is just bad design, not React's fault.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by salawat »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

I'm honestly starting to reach the opinion we should all be VPNing our web traffic through Europe so we can pick up more of the benefits.

Orrrrr.... We could actually send a real message that this type of behavior is completely unacceptable by raising awareness in our collective countries of origin to get GDPR like regulations codified in law so this type of abuse becomes the exception rather than the norm.

Otherwise, it'll turn into a case where companies will farm out their web design and digital marketing to "marketing heavens" just like they already do creative restructuring and accounting for tax evasion purposes.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by throwincel7362 »

heyoni wrote: post #48
wlll wrote: post #6

The day I added an ad blocker (Adblock Plus, Ghostery and uBlock origin) was the day my CPU fans stopped spinning almost constantly, my battery life improved, web pages loaded faster and were more responsive. My experience of the web is about a thousand times better than it used to be. I will remove all these when the ad companies and websites start to behave themselves, which will be never.

I lost weight when I started using adblockers, my skin cleared up and I got a girlfriend!

my god did hn just solve the incel crisis?

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by ayayecocojambo »

heyoni wrote: post #48
wlll wrote: post #6

The day I added an ad blocker (Adblock Plus, Ghostery and uBlock origin) was the day my CPU fans stopped spinning almost constantly, my battery life improved, web pages loaded faster and were more responsive. My experience of the web is about a thousand times better than it used to be. I will remove all these when the ad companies and websites start to behave themselves, which will be never.

I lost weight when I started using adblockers, my skin cleared up and I got a girlfriend!

NoAds > NoFap

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by wlll »

dominotw wrote: post #77
wlll wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel freer now companies are limited with what they can do with my data. I hope that preventing companies exploiting data will lead to more interesting business models than "provide distracting trinket and harvest data". I don't want to take part in a grand age of the Internet which basically amounts to people harvesting information about me so they can do anything from trying to sell me shit to attempting to corru…

Aren't you basically adimitting that you are 1. distracted by 'trinkets' 2. Expose your personal information in exchange for trinkets 3. Prone to buying 'shit' on the internet 4. naive to fall for fake news 5. Govt needs to step in and take charge to create "more interesting business models"

No, you fucking moron.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by _bxg1 »

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage.

I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by wlll »

throwincel7362 wrote: post #83
heyoni wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lost weight when I started using adblockers, my skin cleared up and I got a girlfriend!

my god did hn just solve the incel crisis?

Only if installing an ad blocker also cured him of being a raging jackass ;)

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by PostOnce »

salawat wrote: post #69
olivierduval wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who NEED ???? Are you kidding ??? Even without TARGETED ads, the world is still running, you know?? And if a startup business model is to make money by selling its user datas without telling them and without their consent.. well... let it die!!! And the world will be a better place...

People need to not downvote. The in-joke is the bane of communication. Let it be explicitly spelled out for those not in the know.

but now we have half a dozen comments including the original sarcastic one that add nothing, when everyone could have inferred all of this from the grandparent "we should pick up some benefits from routing through europe" comment. None of the replies, nor yours, add anything substantial, nor are very funny or interesting.

That's why the downvotes have come -- to clean this up, so people can scan past the grey stuff that probably adds nothing.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by smoe »

dmead wrote: post #25
dman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you liked the effect of installing an adblocker give disabling Javascript a try. (You can selectively whitelist a small number of websites). Did this a couple of years back and the difference is astounding.

Is there a list somewhere of what websites actually work without JavaScript enabled?

If have had javascript disabled for about four years now, and it was among the best quality of life decisions I ever made in terms of web browsing.

I don't think there is a list, but I'd say it heavily depends on your browsing behaviour. In my case the vast majority of web sites that I access randomly (mostly trough some feed or aggregator) are text based and actually more pleasant to use without js: Faster, no jumping around of content, no obnoxious subscribe modals, almost zero ads, etc. If it doesn't work without js, I usually just close the tab. I hold the view, that if something is important enough for me to care, it will reach me in some form or the other eventually.

But if you are mostly about multi media content, checking out tech demos or similar, you are going to have a bad time.

You can use the "Quick JS switcher" plugin to easily enable js for a page

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quick-js-swit...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-javascript-s...

I'm quite lenient in white listing, because for me personally disabling js is mostly about performance. If I'm interested enough in a web sites offering and see the utility of it requiring js, I'm also willing to wait a little. But I'm not patient by default

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by mygo »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #80
wlll wrote: post #6

The day I added an ad blocker (Adblock Plus, Ghostery and uBlock origin) was the day my CPU fans stopped spinning almost constantly, my battery life improved, web pages loaded faster and were more responsive. My experience of the web is about a thousand times better than it used to be. I will remove all these when the ad companies and websites start to behave themselves, which will be never.

> I will remove all these when the ad companies and websites start to behave themselves, which will be never. Which will be when access portals (currently search engines, and app stores for apps) heavily correlate resource usage with ranking / commission / etc. Currently, the biggest access portal(s) are invested in ads, so not any time soon. But when every kb drops your pagerank one point, and every cpu cycle costs…

I think this is sensible, because sites in the same industry should have the same energy consumption. For example a video streaming site will always use more CPU than craigslist, but that’s okay because a video streaming site is competing with other video streaming sites.

But I think the industry’s solution to this has always been to just wait for the inevitable faster and faster computers that come out each year, so that the lag becomes less just by the passage of time. But that becomes a cat and mouse game because as CPU’s and network speeds get faster and storage gets cheaper, developers can get away with larger sites and slower code.

case in point, nowadays you can barely browse the web with an iPhone 4, but when it first came out people weren’t waiting 30 seconds for a pageload on it. Even look at the average size of an app in the App Store now. I think facebook was 40MB when it first was released, now it’s 300MB. It’s like you have to keep getting newer and newer hardware just to keep up.

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