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Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

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Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

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To build on that a bit. My bank uses voice recognition as a security measure and to authenticate me when I call in. Throw a bad actor in the mix and that becomes a security issue.

Reminds me of the classic "My voice is my passport. Verify me." Hopefully that is not the only second-factor option they provide?

Ha! Luckily it opt-in/out and they do allow you to keep a pin/code word as a backup.

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#82

Their ethics don't seem to be something they take seriously as the video they use to promote their own site is an impersonation itself. Seems from right out of the gate, they are breaking their own ethical guidelines as a cheap promotional tactic. If they care that little about themselves and a former president of the United States, what do they care about your likeness. It also doesn't help that you give them a univ…

They have a giant banner at the bottom disclaiming it. I don't think that's unethical.

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

#83
post #71

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We accept hotmail. It might be because of some special characters. Do you use + ?

Nope. Just letters and numbers. Same with my password. I tried with my Gmail address and it worked fine. That address has no numbers in it. I used the same password. If you aren't prohibiting Hotmail addresses then it must be the numbers in the email address that are triggering some validation. Regardless, I have access now. Looking forward to trying your product!

Don't reveal your powerlevel in HN, dude. Now you've not only reduced the search space for your Hotmail password, yoy've clued an attacker in that that's also your Gmail password!

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

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Their ethics don't seem to be something they take seriously as the video they use to promote their own site is an impersonation itself. Seems from right out of the gate, they are breaking their own ethical guidelines as a cheap promotional tactic. If they care that little about themselves and a former president of the United States, what do they care about your likeness. It also doesn't help that you give them a univ…

I'll agree. The ethics here seem very wishy-washy. It's not nearly as well-defined as, say, Twilio's Nine Values[0] or ThoughtWorks's Pillars[1], and those are generic values, not ethics. Hell, Google's "Do No Evil" is better than their two bullet points: 1) raise public awareness, 2) your voice is yours (except these Presidents), ???) Imagine if someone bad invented this first!

[0]: https://www.twilio.com/company/nine-values

[1]: https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ThreePillars.html

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

#85
post #47

This looks really great, congrats! Forgive me if I missed something, but I was wondering if you could clear up some confusion. From the terms: "Subject to the Biometric Data Agreement, you hereby grant to us a fully paid, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right (including any moral rights) and license to use, license, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly…

Yes! This is what our lawyers suggested to protect ourselves. We delete all the recordings when you click delete, so we can't recreate the voice anymore. However, this is still necessary in case we share some generated sentences in social media or so (like we're doing on twitter now).

I don't believe you.

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

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Fidelity began verifying voice for telephone customer service a short while back. They recorded me during the call then at the end said they were going to use it to verify for future calls. No way to opt out.

Did they say something to that effect before the call started, or only told you at the end? Or did they just use the "this call may be monitored for quality assurance and training purposes" blanket?

I remember it too vaguely at this point but something was mentioned in the beginning while I was waiting. I feel like it was worded along the lines of a promo or I wouldn't have told the rep. I wasn't interested multiple times. "Verifying is now easier and more secure with voice verification..."

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

#88
post #50

I am confused about the functionality. What is that I will be able to do, if I go through recording 30 sentences?

This is just a beta version. In the future, we expect to integrate the tech with some other apps.

This technology didn't work out for me. After spending time and effort in providing what it needs, the results I got back in return, were terrible for the time invested. In any case, good to see such attempt at evolving what is potentially possible in the future.

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

#89
post #47

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Yes! This is what our lawyers suggested to protect ourselves. We delete all the recordings when you click delete, so we can't recreate the voice anymore. However, this is still necessary in case we share some generated sentences in social media or so (like we're doing on twitter now).

> However, this is still necessary in case we share some generated sentences in social media or so (like we're doing on twitter now). This is something that you should only do with the permission of the user who provided the voice. You don't need generalized permission to do that for every user, and given the nature of the technology, you shouldn't ask for such permission.

From the grandparent comment:

> This is what our lawyers suggested to protect ourselves.

Generally speaking, a lawyer's advice is going to be optimized for maximum protection in possibly unforeseeable circumstances, not for what might actually be needed or even reasonable to request of every user.

Generally speaking, companies aren't going to go out of their way to rein in their lawyer. Most people won't even read that fine print, unfortunately.

Re: Launch HN: Lyrebird (YC S17) – Create a digital copy of your voice

#90
post #41
post #34

Cool stuff! Question from your FAQ: > Q: Will I be able to copy another person's voice? > A: Yes but only if you have the authorization of the person whose voice is being copied. Perhaps you can unpack that answer a bit? What's the authorization process?

Sure, good question! There will be two scenarii: - you want to use the voice of someone that has a Lyrebird account: he or she has to give you their authorization. - you want to use the voice of someone who does not have an account. We have specific contracts for that. Say you want to copy the voice of Morgan Freeman, the contract will be between him/her, you and Lyrebird. We will also probably explore alternative wa…

Did you get authorization to use the voices of public figures in your promotional materials? If not, how can users be sure that you will not arbitrary use their voice profile for promotional materials or otherwise?
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