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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by lithos »

cm2187 wrote: post #57
arca_vorago wrote: post #55

Microsoft had been testing my patience for a while, but Windows 10 was the straw that broke the camels back. I no longer support or use Windows and am a happier/healthier person for it. Ya'll should try it too! Microsoft is not a good faith actor in the software world, at all. All the "open-source" push they have been doing of late to stem the tide reeks of the 90's... and what frustates me the most is people are so…

I wish I could do the same but I don't have the time to relearn everything from scratch. Did you use any specific resources in transitioning from windows to linux?

Savings on server hosting caused me to start using Linux. Then making every possible mistake when following tutorials caused enough exposure to actually learn something.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by nailer »

Macuyiko wrote: post #35
cillian64 wrote: post #26

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I seem to recall there's a way to do this with group policy editor. I'd expect this to be more supported/proper than via the registry. But I can't remember where in group policy the setting is found, and am purely speculating at its reliability.

For reference, this SO post has the steps: https://superuser.com/questions/957267/how-to-disable-automa...

Thanks. Would happily pay $5 for someone to write a current-Windows UI for enabling and disabling this.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by pbowyer »

mdek wrote: post #24

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

> > Has anyone found a reliable way to disable automatic reboots for Windows 10 Pro? My registry mods have all eventually stopped working.

Yes. https://www.udse.de/en/windows-10-reboot-blocker.

A little program that runs in the background and continually changes the time window when updates would be allowed to exclude the next period.

Like you I run VMs and they don't always cleanly shut down when Windows decides to do its thing... no problems since installing the above. I've set it up on my parents computer, my wife's, and it works on them all.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by criddell »

silly_giraffe wrote: post #38
tokenizerrr wrote: post #27

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Rebooting your computer daily will do the trick. Either shut it down at the end of the day, or give it a reboot. It will do its thing and leave you alone for the next 24 hours. Before you downvote me, which many of you have done already for some reason, please keep in mind that this advice actually works. It's not my decision to have things work like this. That's on Microsoft. But it does work, and is legitimate advi…

Except for us crazy individuals that need the computer on for uninterrupted data processing. I have Windows only software that can take two weeks to complete a dataset. There is no intermediate data backup, so if the job is killed, I have to start over. My only reliable option has been to keep it off the network.

This is a prime use case for a workstation and it's hard for me to believe that Microsoft didn't expose better control over updates.

More than a few times, I've come to work, wiggled my mouse and been greeted with a blank desktop. It's soooo frustrating that I need to spend the first 15 minutes of my day launching applications, loading projects, digging up notes, etc... when it was all arranged perfectly just a few hours ago. Windows can figure out my likely work hours. How hard would it be for them to pop up a reminder that the machine will be rebooted overnight and give me some options?

On top of that, after the reboot, Microsoft reinstalls all the bloat that I removed -- money, bing, xbox, groove, contacts, email, weather, maps, news, and others. All of them have bugs, all consumer resources, and all probably make my machine less secure.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by wolfgke »

pjmlp wrote: post #54
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #23

Users are asking for features, not for yet more editions of Windows. Editions are merely a way to charge for those features and I don't think they are a good way to do that. Editions create barriers. They make you work around missing features that would force you into buying a much more expensive edition, so you learn to live without those features or replace them with other operating systems and free software.

Agreed, there should only be Ubuntu.

> Agreed, there should only be Ubuntu.

You should better present your reasoning at https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by nailer »

4ad wrote: post #67
nailer wrote: post #62

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If there was no current UI, you wouldn't have the Settings app. Sure you want Control Panel back?

LTSB actually comes with the settings app, though I don't want to use the settings app anyway. For the record, I am using LTSB, I just wish there was an easier way of getting it.

I thought you said 'no metro'? Doesn't that mean Windows 7 UI?

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by cjsuk »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #43
cjsuk wrote: post #36

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That only happens if you tick all the boxes in the app store preferences window. And that's not the default. So you had to tick it.

It is by default I'm actually sitting on a fresh install as of a week ago on my work machine. It probably retains a legacy setting if you updated but this is straight from Apple. I never even knew that preference box existed.

Mine is a fresh install of the same vintage.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by rbanffy »

cm2187 wrote: post #74
rbanffy wrote: post #60

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It really depends on what you do, what you work on. System administration is very different, as is GUI development. Other things aren't that different and a lot of back-end, devops-ish, trendy stuff is cross-platform.

I sort of like to play with everything: virtualisation, websites, desktop development. Which is why that's quite a lot to learn, and not a trivial exercise without a GUI. In fact if it wasn't for the disaster that windows 10 has become, I would rather stay in the MS environment. Visual Studio/.net/C#/VB.net are a treat, and I am concerned I won't find tools and languages that are that integrated and polished in the l…

About desktop development, you will need to consider your clients. If you develop for Windows clients, then probably you'll be better off running Visual Studio, even if inside a VM. If you develop for other platforms or write code that does not depend on Windows API's, you are pretty much free to use anything. Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ etc don't change between platforms.

The bulk of virtualization is the concepts - virtual networks, disks etc. You can learn a new UI rather easily.

I am not sure what is the situation on .NET web development for other OSs, but I keep hearing Microsoft is doing a great job with that.

I am mostly web these days and all my tools work pretty well under Windows (even though the last time I did it I used Cygwin because it was well before the Ubuntu on Windows thing).

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by 4ad »

cm2187 wrote: post #79
4ad wrote: post #73

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Yes, see my rather extensive edit. It's only $539, though. The cheaper MSDN tier seems to include LTSB according to the product matrix.

Which tier are you refering to? I thought VS Pro was the cheapest option.

Ah, it's cloud subscription vs standard subscription.

This is the proper link: https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/pricing/

So it's $539/yr for cloud vs. $1,199/1st yr + $799/2nd yr for standard.

Also on the same page we can see the differences:

> After the subscription expires, can use the software that was available during the active subscription term (“perpetual” use rights)

For standard it's YES, for cloud it's NO. It seems to be enforced, because lower on the page:

> Must connect to the Internet to check license status at least once every 30 days

For standard we have NO, and for cloud we have YES.

So unfortunately, you are right. It's $1,199 (more or less), not $539.

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