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Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by blunte »

DiThi wrote: post #34
blunte wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joylent/JimmyJoy shakes cost 1.83€ per shake. They provide 45g of protein per shake, 33% of daily vitamins and minerals, and 700kcal. They take about 2 minutes to make, and another 2-3 to consume. I challenge you to find the same benefits any other way.

Not OP. My meals in Spain cost 1€ on average and it takes me around 5 minutes on average to prepare. Example: Premade spanish tortilla with olive oil, for 1.75€ in Mercadona, 798 kcal[0]. Just heat in the microwave for a minute. (spaniards say premade spanish tortilla is awful but I think the Mercadona one, while not as good as home made, is pretty good) [0] https://www.mercadona.es/detall_producte.php?id=80772

Your suggested quick food is 5.3g of protein. I'm sure it's more enjoyable to eat than my shake, but it doesn't give me the protein that I want. It's also not something I can take as a little bag of powder and "just add water" to anywhere.

So as the hot chick on the Lil Dicky video says, "apples to oranges".

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by shubb »

zelo wrote: post #62
Oletros wrote: post #39

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I prefer spending 50min eating a 10 euro menu and relaxing out of office. Or eating the meal I have prepared in my house. Perhaps Soylent/Joylent/etc is good when you're in a hurry but I wouldn't like to base my general diet on them

I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Joy (Joylent) is still better-balanced food than what you prepare in a house or buy in a restaurant.

I'm pretty sure joylent lost me a job once. I was there consulting but they were making good noises about an extension.

Then I tried a week on joylent. I emitted smells I have only previously come across in a hospital. The putrid reak of a gut in very great distress.

It goes away in a few days, said the internet. So I kept faith and held on for a week, then a second.

One morning I came in to find my desk had been moved to the break area. 'we noticed that your are ill so we thought it was better all round if you weren't here with the team'

I dropped joylent after that, and my bowels went back to normal. But the damage was done (indeed I had to bin some of my trousers as the damage seemed embedded in them).

So I say, joylent, okay, but only if you work from home and don't cohabit.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by DiThi »

blunte wrote: post #81
DiThi wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP. My meals in Spain cost 1€ on average and it takes me around 5 minutes on average to prepare. Example: Premade spanish tortilla with olive oil, for 1.75€ in Mercadona, 798 kcal[0]. Just heat in the microwave for a minute. (spaniards say premade spanish tortilla is awful but I think the Mercadona one, while not as good as home made, is pretty good) [0] https://www.mercadona.es/detall_producte.php?id=80772

Your suggested quick food is 5.3g of protein. I'm sure it's more enjoyable to eat than my shake, but it doesn't give me the protein that I want. It's also not something I can take as a little bag of powder and "just add water" to anywhere. So as the hot chick on the Lil Dicky video says, "apples to oranges".

5.3g per 100g of product, that is 5.3%. It says the serving is 100g but I eat 200-300g for a full meal.

For the whole 600g of product (which is the caloric equivalent of two soylent servings) you have 32g. If you want a higher protein-to-calories ratio, just boil eggs which are even cheaper. In 10-15 minutes one can boil eggs once a week for the whole week.

edit: Before complaining about cholesterol, please watch this (or read the text version linked in the description, with sources) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S6-v37nOtY I recommend the rest of the channel as well.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by wink »

je_bailey wrote: post #66

I have two thoughts about this submission. First, this is a funny and well written blog entry about someone trying Soylent. Second, Hacker News is not the right place for this. This is humor and viewpoint. HN wants, or at least pretends to want, analysis and figures. Maybe if they stripped all the CSS from the site and made the blog look like it was made by a dysfunctional highschooler in the 90's it would get a bit…

Oh I'm getting nearly as much amusement out of reading the comments that solely focus on soylent as a product as I got out of reading the (excellent, imho, but not very objective) post.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by Oletros »

blunte wrote: post #80
jazzyk wrote: post #75

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A lunch meal at a restaurant with friends/coworkers is just so much more civilized - and satisfying - than eating some melee out of a plastic container. And the Mediterranean countries are just masters in this area (thank you Spain/France/Italy!)

I don't think anyone suggested that it's an either-or proposition. When you need something fast, or you need something fast AND you want a good amount of protein, these shakes are great. I'd certainly rather have a nice several course meal with friends; but if I have little time, these shakes are a great solution.

This was my comment

> Perhaps Soylent/Joylent/etc is good when you're in a hurry but I wouldn't like to base my general diet on them

it was followed by this

> I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Joy (Joylent) is still better-balanced food than what you prepare in a house or buy in a restaurant.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by blunte »

DiThi wrote: post #83
blunte wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your suggested quick food is 5.3g of protein. I'm sure it's more enjoyable to eat than my shake, but it doesn't give me the protein that I want. It's also not something I can take as a little bag of powder and "just add water" to anywhere. So as the hot chick on the Lil Dicky video says, "apples to oranges".

5.3g per 100g of product, that is 5.3%. It says the serving is 100g but I eat 200-300g for a full meal. For the whole 600g of product (which is the caloric equivalent of two soylent servings) you have 32g. If you want a higher protein-to-calories ratio, just boil eggs which are even cheaper. In 10-15 minutes one can boil eggs once a week for the whole week. edit: Before complaining about cholesterol, please watch thi…

JimmyJoy shakes are not Soylent shakes.

175g of JimmyJoy = 45g protein. That's hard to beat, especially considering all the other things you get with it.

I had no intention of complaining about cholesterol.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by blunte »

shubb wrote: post #82
zelo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Joy (Joylent) is still better-balanced food than what you prepare in a house or buy in a restaurant.

I'm pretty sure joylent lost me a job once. I was there consulting but they were making good noises about an extension. Then I tried a week on joylent. I emitted smells I have only previously come across in a hospital. The putrid reak of a gut in very great distress. It goes away in a few days, said the internet. So I kept faith and held on for a week, then a second. One morning I came in to find my desk had been mov…

Too bad about the problems you had with your colon. But guts are complex systems, and it sounds like yours was not prepared for the stuff in those shakes.

Fortunately I've not experienced what you experienced... and I'm on my 40th bag or so (3 shakes per bag).

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by DiThi »

blunte wrote: post #87
DiThi wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5.3g per 100g of product, that is 5.3%. It says the serving is 100g but I eat 200-300g for a full meal. For the whole 600g of product (which is the caloric equivalent of two soylent servings) you have 32g. If you want a higher protein-to-calories ratio, just boil eggs which are even cheaper. In 10-15 minutes one can boil eggs once a week for the whole week. edit: Before complaining about cholesterol, please watch thi…

JimmyJoy shakes are not Soylent shakes. 175g of JimmyJoy = 45g protein. That's hard to beat, especially considering all the other things you get with it. I had no intention of complaining about cholesterol.

26% protein, mostly of wheat, which doesn't have a balanced amount of essential amino acids. Also 51% carbs and 10% fat. I wouldn't want that, way too many carbs. Fat is the best energy source for the human body, for so many reasons I wouldn't stop talking about them.

But anyway, split roasted chicken[0] has the same proportion of protein (26%, but the serving is bigger at 65g). It comes with 4 individual bags of 250g of chicken for ~4.65€ (1.16€ each) and one can just heat a bag in the microwave. And it's very well seasoned and delicious.

[0] https://www.mercadona.es/detall_producte.php?id=80874

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

pwinnski wrote: post #77
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #72

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> Not sure what your purpose is in rallying against this, anyway Just one question - why would tech people be best placed to do this, not you know, nutritionists who have successfully, established products in an adjacent niche?

As GP said, the difference is marketing. This was marketed to "normal" people, which works best when created by a "normal" person. Of course, now that "normal" people are aware that liquid meal replacements are a thing, there are other options.

I wonder if Soylent would have been even more successful if instead of trying to "develop" a food from scratch with software engineer skills, they had instead simply rebadged or varied an existing NutriSlim-type product.
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