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Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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What do you consider unhealthy?

Until some years ago, the "menu del dia" was basically french fries with something fried. At least in Barcelona, now I can find equilibrated menus

I see. French fries are not very good, yeah. Unless I'm traveling I tend to avoid restaurants in Spain because there's a lot of food that is easy to make at home. And because restaurants tend to be expensive in comparison.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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It is a mystery why people in tech thought that "meal replacement liquid" was a fundamentally new product. It's not http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/weight-management/meal... https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/browse/default.aspx?... Perhaps, a victory of marketing over experience and existing knowledge of nutrition?

What was "new" about Soylent and subequent imitators is that it's marketed as a meal replacement product for "normal" people. Earlier meal replacement products were either marketed for weight-loss purposes or medical purposes, mostly as supplements for people who, for various reasons, can't consume their full daily recommended intake of calories and nutrients. They were typically to be found in pharmacies and health-…

> Not sure what your purpose is in rallying against this, anyway

Just one question - why would tech people be best placed to do this, not you know, nutritionists who have successfully, established products in an adjacent niche?

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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I have been using Soylent for a month now and have no problem. Although I'm using the powder one you have to mix with water not the bottled one which contain caffeine and is made to replace your breakfast + coffee. Anyway sorry you had such bad experience, living in then toilet is never great :/

> not the bottled one which contain caffeine and is made to replace your breakfast + coffee Actually, the base 2.0 (bottled) Soylent doesn't contain caffeine and is intended to replace any meal of the day. What you are referring to is Coffiest, which is only one variety.

They added two more caffeinated varieties.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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I had / am having a different experience. I wish the author did a bit more research and had laid out some more facts; a guy in the comments says it pretty much perfectly: > Of all the articles that have talked about soylent, both positively and negatively, this is one of the least informative. Because, guess what? You didn't actually give soylent a try. You just saw an opportunity to make fun of a product that you do…

But what if this was just… entertainment? Check out the about page of her blog — http://www.everywhereist.com/about/ — this isn't a foodie's journal cataloguing the world of all things edible, this is a copywriter that took up blogging while traveling. She found something to write about, and wrote about it. (In a style that was funny while not being cringe-inducing, which I find rare these days.)

Side note, though — awesome to hear that Soylent works for you. Because, as you said, this _is_ the story I've heard most of the time. I don't like in an area where I'd ever stumble into someone that even knows what Soylent is, so a flip side to these stories is always good to know.

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I prefer spending 50min eating a 10 euro menu and relaxing out of office. Or eating the meal I have prepared in my house. Perhaps Soylent/Joylent/etc is good when you're in a hurry but I wouldn't like to base my general diet on them

I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Joy (Joylent) is still better-balanced food than what you prepare in a house or buy in a restaurant.

A lunch meal at a restaurant with friends/coworkers is just so much more civilized - and satisfying - than eating some melee out of a plastic container.

And the Mediterranean countries are just masters in this area (thank you Spain/France/Italy!)

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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I had / am having a different experience. I wish the author did a bit more research and had laid out some more facts; a guy in the comments says it pretty much perfectly: > Of all the articles that have talked about soylent, both positively and negatively, this is one of the least informative. Because, guess what? You didn't actually give soylent a try. You just saw an opportunity to make fun of a product that you do…

But what if this was just… entertainment? Check out the about page of her blog — http://www.everywhereist.com/about/ — this isn't a foodie's journal cataloguing the world of all things edible, this is a copywriter that took up blogging while traveling. She found something to write about, and wrote about it. (In a style that was funny while not being cringe-inducing, which I find rare these days.) Side note, though —…

Fair enough; this is the apparently kind of storytelling I don't enjoy. I misinterpreted and assumed that this was supposed to be informative, and not entertaining.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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What was "new" about Soylent and subequent imitators is that it's marketed as a meal replacement product for "normal" people. Earlier meal replacement products were either marketed for weight-loss purposes or medical purposes, mostly as supplements for people who, for various reasons, can't consume their full daily recommended intake of calories and nutrients. They were typically to be found in pharmacies and health-…

> Not sure what your purpose is in rallying against this, anyway Just one question - why would tech people be best placed to do this, not you know, nutritionists who have successfully, established products in an adjacent niche?

As GP said, the difference is marketing. This was marketed to "normal" people, which works best when created by a "normal" person.

Of course, now that "normal" people are aware that liquid meal replacements are a thing, there are other options.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was "new" about Soylent and subequent imitators is that it's marketed as a meal replacement product for "normal" people. Earlier meal replacement products were either marketed for weight-loss purposes or medical purposes, mostly as supplements for people who, for various reasons, can't consume their full daily recommended intake of calories and nutrients. They were typically to be found in pharmacies and health-…

> Not sure what your purpose is in rallying against this, anyway Just one question - why would tech people be best placed to do this, not you know, nutritionists who have successfully, established products in an adjacent niche?

In Soylent's specific case it looks like they saw an unaddressed opportunity in the tech environment around them, then expanded from there. They took a marketing approach (it's about "science and efficiency") which that crowd responds to. Nutrition and food marketers weren't a part of that world and likely didn't have the chance to see the opportunity.

Re: Trying Soylent didn’t go well

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I think Soylent is stupid, but I stopped reading after I saw the article was front-loaded with a review of Soylent's marketing image and some bland musing related to the way modern labeling is scary because of it's inaccessibility.

I'm sure if I followed her as an author - rather than for the subject matter - I'd feel differently. But I didn't go into this blog looking to read someone talk about whatever while being quirky and making it about themselves. So I just found her personality really grating.

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I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Joy (Joylent) is still better-balanced food than what you prepare in a house or buy in a restaurant.

A lunch meal at a restaurant with friends/coworkers is just so much more civilized - and satisfying - than eating some melee out of a plastic container. And the Mediterranean countries are just masters in this area (thank you Spain/France/Italy!)

I don't think anyone suggested that it's an either-or proposition.

When you need something fast, or you need something fast AND you want a good amount of protein, these shakes are great.

I'd certainly rather have a nice several course meal with friends; but if I have little time, these shakes are a great solution.

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