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MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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I would have preferred an iphone dock where the touchpad resides, just replace the supplied touch pad with your iphone and you get and additional screen. but they gave us this useless touch screen.

Before I saw leaked photos of the touchbar channel, I had convinced myself that Apple was going to put a screen under the track pad. Oh well.

I have a gut feeling that this is still in the works and the main reasons for the trackpad size expansion that no-one in particular was asking for.

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A lot of people know how to add a bigger disk or more RAM. Or they know somebody who knows.

Evidently not enough for Apple to make design/cost concessions though.

As long as they can coerce people into buying machines with higher spec than they need right now "just in case", it's good business. I think it's the same thinking that makes them not having an SD card slot.

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Why is upgradability inherent in professional? I've never worked somewhere that upgrades work machines. Every couple of years we get new ones.

Did they ever do repairs? Upgradability also includes repairability. If you have a fleet of Dell Latitudes or ThinkPads, for example, you give users a "new" one for a broken one, and you can often repair it by swapping in parts from other broken ones. SSD upgrades are simple, and you can also upgrade laptops that come with 4GB up to 8, 12, 16 or sometimes 32GB depending on what the user needs.

No that's what the service warranty is for.

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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This is really an iPad running MacOS, with everything soldered on, zero upgradeability and near-zero repairability. That's the antithesis of a "professional" machine. I wonder if we'll see a similar trend with the mac pro if Apple doesn't decide to scrap it completely. We run quite a few mac pros and macbook pros at work, so this has us thinking hard.

Personally I have no problems with upgradeability as I tend to use my electronics until their last breath and I have no need and I am too cheap to upgrade. Without any upgradeability it means if something breaks - toss it to the bin. It is not ecological, nor sustainable.

I loath Apple's power bricks - cable torn even though you cared it like a baby? Toss it to the bin. I really hope that they try to fix cables for bricks sent under warranty and sell as refurbished, otherwise it's incredibly wastefull.

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> Repairability 1 out of 10 This is my main reason to stop buying Apple hardware, not so much the lack of an Esc key. The Mid 2012 model still scored 7 / 10.

I bought a Mid-2012 in late 2015 partly for this reason. If the hard drive dies, I should be able to swap it out myself. Apple's maximum storage was 1TB when I bought it, but I'll be able to upgrade this machine to a 2TB SSD if I want. I still miss the 2006 MacBook design though. That made replacing the hard drive, RAM & battery extremely easy to do yourself.

Or just get a Thinkpad or Inspiron where the hdd, DVD drive, wifi card, battery, and ram all just snap into place. Apple has never been good at that, but in return you get a bit more solid (physically) piece of kit.

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I love the fake speaker grilles that don't even go all the way through the machine... Form follows function, minimal design indeed.

I hate to admit this but I'll bite. Apple is being steered by fifty shades of Steve Ballmer now. Colored and extra-large iPhones, death to magSafe, stupid mini-iPads that have no reason to exist other than being a marketing offer. Decisions for the sake of making decisions.

Having products in colors is actually a pretty distinctly Steve Jobs sort of thing to do... (just look at the iMac).

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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> Repairability 1 out of 10 This is my main reason to stop buying Apple hardware, not so much the lack of an Esc key. The Mid 2012 model still scored 7 / 10.

well let us all be honest here, laptops have always been difficult to repair if at all regardless of manufacturer due to custom parts required just to meet the form factor. Desktops only if your not an all in one design are repairable if that is describable but costs of new hardware being so low its usually for many to just replace the whole machine. I don't even worry about tablet/phone repair. On my iPhone4 I did r…

I know Kyle from iFixit, and while he does care a lot about the ability of end users to make repairs themselves, he truly also believes in the inherent waste of equipment not being able to be repaired by anyone, and those even slightly-older Apple laptops are absolutely still repairable by Apple as Apple simply stocks those "custom parts required just to meet the form factor" (hence 7/10 dropping to 1/10).

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I am surprised by few things after newest rMBP teardowns - Battery takes less space, than I thought, just eyeballing it but it seems that in (classic)rMBP battery takes more volume percent-wise. - Battery is smaller by ~10% than non touch bar model (49.2 Wh vs 54.5 Wh) and significantly smaller than the classic rmbps. - Two fans, classics had 1. - Touchbar has speakers speakers under palm rest, and not under grills,…

Now we need a someone to drop it in an aquarium and collect the bubbles to show just how much air is in that device.

If you did that, recorded it and the video got popular you could earn back the money you spent on the device multiple times over in ad-revenue.

Of course, the crux is that if the video does not get popular you'll just be yet another fool who wasted a bunch of money doing something stupid.

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We upgrade the SSD for every dev. 1TB instead of a paltry 256GB.

If you bought it with 1TB already in it, you wouldn't have to upgrade anything. ;) It would be nice to be able to upgrade, but really, it's not a dealbreaker for me. I really enjoy developing on Mac and I needed to upgrade for my AIr, so I bought a new one of these. Windows is still lacking on the dev side (though I'm hoping it gets there soon), and Linux isn't quite where I need it to be for my personal stuff.

>If you bought it with 1TB already in it, you wouldn't have to upgrade anything. ;)

You're right; it would just cost an absurd amount of money considering what a 1TB SSD actually goes for. The procedure takes all of ten minutes, well worth it.

I actually can't stand doing real work in OSX, I use Windows. I just like the hardware.

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