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MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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I will copy very interesting question from ifixit: > How do you do a power rest if the machine hangs? Before you held down the power button for a few seconds. Would that work with a touch ID button? Any ideas?

The touch bar is a separate computer isn't it? So you'd have to do a lot to get both to hang at the same time.

And the power button on the laptops has been part of the keyboard for years now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine the majority of professionals that use computers as part of their professional work don't even know what an SSD is or has given any thought to its upgradability.

A lot of people know how to add a bigger disk or more RAM. Or they know somebody who knows.

Evidently not enough for Apple to make design/cost concessions though.

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine the majority of professionals that use computers as part of their professional work don't even know what an SSD is or has given any thought to its upgradability.

A lot of people know how to add a bigger disk or more RAM. Or they know somebody who knows.

I think you're vastly overestimating the knowledge of end users. Been working on the IT side of things for the better part of fifteen years. Majority of people clueless, including our entire engineering department. That's why IT exists.

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This is really an iPad running MacOS, with everything soldered on, zero upgradeability and near-zero repairability. That's the antithesis of a "professional" machine. I wonder if we'll see a similar trend with the mac pro if Apple doesn't decide to scrap it completely. We run quite a few mac pros and macbook pros at work, so this has us thinking hard.

Why is upgradability inherent in professional? I've never worked somewhere that upgrades work machines. Every couple of years we get new ones.

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine the majority of professionals that use computers as part of their professional work don't even know what an SSD is or has given any thought to its upgradability.

A lot of people know how to add a bigger disk or more RAM. Or they know somebody who knows.

I'm not a computer hardware guy, but even I figured out how to add more RAM and a new hard disk to my old Macbook Pro.

That said, I added it last year to my late-2008 Macbook Pro so that I could keep using it for simple stuff at home like browsing HN and watching YouTube.

At work, my professional machines get replaced every few years, so I've never had to monkey with the insides. They're capital assets, and once the depreciation is fully taken, there's no point in holding onto them. We sell them and get new ones.

So the question is, what does it mean to be a "professional" developer?

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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post #55

This is really an iPad running MacOS, with everything soldered on, zero upgradeability and near-zero repairability. That's the antithesis of a "professional" machine. I wonder if we'll see a similar trend with the mac pro if Apple doesn't decide to scrap it completely. We run quite a few mac pros and macbook pros at work, so this has us thinking hard.

Why is upgradability inherent in professional? I've never worked somewhere that upgrades work machines. Every couple of years we get new ones.

We upgrade the SSD for every dev. 1TB instead of a paltry 256GB.

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> Repairability 1 out of 10 This is my main reason to stop buying Apple hardware, not so much the lack of an Esc key. The Mid 2012 model still scored 7 / 10.

I have used 1 Apple device in the last 15 years, an iPod shuffle I got as a gift (I shorted it out by sweating near it). Are other manufacturers doing much better? On my older laptop, the HDD is 2 screws to access. On the laptop my mom used previously, you had to take the CPU fan assembly out after removing the keyboard to get at the HDD.

Was the HDD soldered in place once you got there?

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used 1 Apple device in the last 15 years, an iPod shuffle I got as a gift (I shorted it out by sweating near it). Are other manufacturers doing much better? On my older laptop, the HDD is 2 screws to access. On the laptop my mom used previously, you had to take the CPU fan assembly out after removing the keyboard to get at the HDD.

Was the HDD soldered in place once you got there?

I gave up when I looked at the procedure.

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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post #57
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is upgradability inherent in professional? I've never worked somewhere that upgrades work machines. Every couple of years we get new ones.

We upgrade the SSD for every dev. 1TB instead of a paltry 256GB.

If you bought it with 1TB already in it, you wouldn't have to upgrade anything. ;)

It would be nice to be able to upgrade, but really, it's not a dealbreaker for me. I really enjoy developing on Mac and I needed to upgrade for my AIr, so I bought a new one of these.

Windows is still lacking on the dev side (though I'm hoping it gets there soon), and Linux isn't quite where I need it to be for my personal stuff.

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