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I've never been successfully scammed.
Cool. Maybe you can pivot some of that success towards helping other people who aren't so fortunate as you.
Much more rewarding to be an asshole on the internet, I'm sure.
The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame
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> Frankly, any photo or video on digital media is just a tiny little step away from being irreversibly published to the internet. People should never make photos or videos of that kind if they don't want it to be public. Alternatively, a photo of me in my nude being public should not mean that I am unfit for public office. Nobody would ban Jennifer Lawrence or Kate Upton if they wanted to be a teacher. Why should we…
Really? I think it speaks poorly of the judgment of the person involved. I want the teachers of my children to have good judgment, so I think it's relevant.
> I think it speaks poorly of the judgment of the person involved. I want the teachers of my children to have good judgment, so I think it's relevant.
I think if we all had the good judgment of not having sex ever we would do much better for our children by stopping producing children in a world where we think a naked human body -- even one in the privacy of one's own bedroom -- is somehow shameful or an indicator of poor judgment.
Here's a question for you: assuming you have children, would you prohibit Jennifer Lawrence from going near your children? How about McKayla Maroney? Why is there a double standard here?
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#84>And what if my mum sees this? First, why is she watching unsolicited "porn" if it's so bad? Second, what kind of parent watches a sex video of their kid? Should be obvious what's happening pretty quickly and then Alt-F4. And then why would a relative share the video? I get there's a different cultural standard and not everyone can just shrug and say "ya well I don't know why you're watching videos of me". It just se…
Firsts of all, she doesn't know what it is by the time it's too late.
Secondly, you probably don't hang out with cargo-cult-religious people too much. See One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest's "pecking party" for some idea.
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#85> I chose not to go down the route of scamming because I consider it incompatible with our Moroccan and Islamic values Or... with basic human decency, whether you're Moroccan and Islamic or not.
I spent six weeks in Marrakech over the summer. The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvious thugs to sex scams. This is especially the case if you're a non-Muslim woman. I can't count the number of times men made crude comments to my gf.…
Moroccan here and I found the first paragraph of your comment appaling. So you spent 6 weeks in a foreign country and that makes you now somehow a "subject matter expert in how moroccan think".
> "The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvious thugs to sex scams."
Thank you for letting us know about your insight. I'm not saying you didn't experience this, I'm saying that you are making a dangerous generalization about all people of morocco/muslims. This scams by the way target wealthy people from the gulf, this has nothing to do with you being the "infidel" and being fair game. There are good and bad people everywhere. Your comment hints that moroccan only care about other muslims and would scam others because it doesn't matter. Well I can tell you it matters, we are human beings. Islam as any other Abrahamic religion, does not give you a free card cheating/scaming people just because they are not muslims.
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#86Two thoughts about this story:
1) Am I the only person who doesn't accept random facebook friend requests, ESPECIALLY from beautiful women? If I don't know you, I just assume that you are trying to scam me by becoming my facebook friend. Then again, there must be SOME people who just randomly friend strangers that they have no connection with (or half of the stories in MTV's "Catfish" would have never happened).
2) People really shouldn't freak out too much about there family seeing nudes/sexual pics of them. My mother actually has unintentionally seen sexually explicit photos of me, and it wasn't nearly as big of a deal as I thought it would be. I let her use one of my USB drives, but forgot that there were pictures of myself and ex-girlfriends involved in some more intimate activities.
The result was that my conservative religious mommy realized her then 34yo son was not her "baby" anymore and she called the photos vulgar and pornographic, but beyond that, the world didn't end. I was embarrassed for about 30 seconds, then realized that the only thing that has really changed is she has visual proof that I am sexually active. Well, I am LIVING PROOF that she was sexually active AT LEAST ONCE, so what is the big deal?
The only REALLY uncomfortable part was when the nurse in her came out, and she started grilling me on contraception and whether I was getting regularly tested for STDs. Then she started pleading with me to tell her if she had any grandchildren out there (she doesn't). That turned into the "you really need to settle down and give me some grand-babies" discussion. I offered to buy her a puppy instead, but she said that wasn't the same.
I guess the whole point of my post is that (at least in the West) photos like this might be a little embarrassing, but if your family and friends love you, they will STILL love you even after seeing a video of you doing something that EVERYBODY does, only in private.
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What's lacking in your life that you need to be so judgemental?
What's so judgmental about what I said? I'm just reading the story and pointing out the obvious. It's really hard to feel sorry for someone who sends naked pictures to a stranger simply from a facebook message saying "Hi, how are you? I saw your profile and I liked you". And this is a crisis because?
+1 to this point of view
Samir didn't just fall for a Nigerian money scam or something (also a foolish thing to fall for). He was nude AND masturbated on video AND showed his face to a stranger on the internet, a public venue. I'd feel for him much more so if this was a private video/conversation with his SO that got hacked or their relationship went sour and she used it against him.
The rare times I considered doing something like this with an SO I was concerned just about it going to a secure cloud account in my control. So why would I give a stranger such power over me, even if their intentions are good? What if they got hacked and extorted, and I get caught up in it as a result? Is this experience really worth these risks?
Lastly, so far nothing bad actually happened to him anyway. He got smart quick once it went south and has been proactive ever since and as a result has mitigated the issue. I'm glad he shared his story, hopefully others like him read it and don't go through the same experience.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I spent six weeks in Marrakech over the summer. The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvious thugs to sex scams. This is especially the case if you're a non-Muslim woman. I can't count the number of times men made crude comments to my gf.…
Moroccan here and I found the first paragraph of your comment appaling. So you spent 6 weeks in a foreign country and that makes you now somehow a "subject matter expert in how moroccan think". > "The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvio…
I understand how what I said might offend you, but I clearly said It was more related to poverty and tourism than
Islam and that my experience of Fez was completely different, so I wasn't generalizing about Muslims or Morrocans.
But I stand by what I said: Marrakech, particularly the Medina is occupied by scam artists, thieves, thugs, and scum of every stripe. Perhaps this is based on an unusual and unrepresentative experience, but after six weeks of being harassed, conned, and abused I'm unlikely to return to find out different.
Your contention that they treat everyone this way, regardless Of race, religion, or nationality, isn't comforting.
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Moroccan here and I found the first paragraph of your comment appaling. So you spent 6 weeks in a foreign country and that makes you now somehow a "subject matter expert in how moroccan think". > "The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvio…
I understand how what I said might offend you, but I clearly said It was more related to poverty and tourism than Islam and that my experience of Fez was completely different, so I wasn't generalizing about Muslims or Morrocans. But I stand by what I said: Marrakech, particularly the Medina is occupied by scam artists, thieves, thugs, and scum of every stripe. Perhaps this is based on an unusual and unrepresentative…
>I clearly said It was more related to poverty and tourism than Islam
No you didn't.
>But I stand by what I said: Marrakech, particularly the Medina is occupied by scam artists, thieves, thugs, and scum of every stripe. Perhaps this is based on an unusual and unrepresentative experience, but after six weeks of being harassed, conned, and abused I'm unlikely to return to find out different.
And that is fine with me, it's a tourist city and you would find similar cities around the world. I personally tend to avoid Marrakesh and Casablanca.
> Your contention that they treat everyone this way, regardless Of race, religion, or nationality, isn't comforting.
I still don't think you understood what I was saying. You are generalizing and tend to jump to conclusions quickly. I said scammers generally don't care about your religion, they only care about the money. Which happens surprise suprise everywhere in the world.
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Cool. Maybe you can pivot some of that success towards helping other people who aren't so fortunate as you.
It wasn't simply fortune that's kept me from getting scammed. personal responsibility is a thing.
Not everyone is as smart as you. You can either use your advantage to use them for your own gain, completely ignore them, or help them improve their lives. Personally, I choose the latter out of simple altruism.