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The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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Spam bots have added me on Skype before and I've occasionally tested out how they respond to certain things. Usually nothing interesting but if you mention calling the police they say this (copied from a log):

"hahaha! call em! and tell them you are reporting a felony... YOUR HAIRSTYLE!! You might wanna get that looked at!"

All the bots I tried it on did that same thing, so apparently they're all from the same software, and maybe even the same organization.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

#52

> I chose not to go down the route of scamming because I consider it incompatible with our Moroccan and Islamic values Or... with basic human decency, whether you're Moroccan and Islamic or not.

I spent six weeks in Marrakech over the summer. The attitude among the locals is basically this: it you're a Muslim, you're "one of them" so you don't get scammed. If you're not a Muslim, you're fair game for everyone from small boys on the street to shop owners to obvious thugs to sex scams.

This is especially the case if you're a non-Muslim woman. I can't count the number of times men made crude comments to my gf. On several occasions shopkeepers sexually assaulted her with me standing right there!

I've been to some shitty places in my time, but none of them have been quite so horrible as Marrakech. Having said that, I also spent a couple of weeks in Fez and that was lovely — completely different atmosphere and attitude.

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't think this attitude is necessarily a Muslim thing. I think it's more to do with poverty and tourism. I live in Eastern Europe at the moment and there are plenty of scams here too, although not at the same level.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

#53
I've dealt with a ring like this when ww.com was still active, a bunch of Romanian women had begun targeting the men on there. In the end I set myself up as a potential victim to see how they went about their business and sure enough, a couple of hours of chatting later the requests for nudity started to roll in.

The girls were all real, I figured out some of their moves and got rid of all of them, it took a while to puzzle out the extent of the whole thing. Likely they made 1000's if not 10's of 1000's of euros before we got wind of it because the victims were extremely reluctant to contact one of the moderators or the authorities.

The simplest advice I can give to anybody that is being propositioned by some girl online is to simply not get undressed in front of your webcam.

It's sad that technology that I had a hand in creating is abused like this, and it really pissed me off that my website was a direct tool for blackmail.

But at least that particular ring got shut down, however it is likely they moved on to other ways of reaching their victims.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

#54

>Intelligent, articulate, and technologically adept, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that in a place with more opportunities a young man of Omar's talents could find a legitimate way to earn his $500 a day. Pretty ridiculous statement there. Not many places on earth can a person earn that for simply being smart.

"He isn't so bad after all. Just an unpolished diamond forced into scamming by his environment!"

Running these scams doesn't require any kind of above average intelligence or rhetorical and technological skills. All this guy is doing is browsing social media websites for lonely men and pretend to be a pretty girl from a third world country to them. It's a no-brainer. I strongly doubt Omar has any skills that would get him an above average job.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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Frankly, any photo or video on digital media is just a tiny little step away from being irreversibly published to the internet. People should never make photos or videos of that kind if they don't want it to be public.

> Frankly, any photo or video on digital media is just a tiny little step away from being irreversibly published to the internet. People should never make photos or videos of that kind if they don't want it to be public. Alternatively, a photo of me in my nude being public should not mean that I am unfit for public office. Nobody would ban Jennifer Lawrence or Kate Upton if they wanted to be a teacher. Why should we…

Really? I think it speaks poorly of the judgment of the person involved. I want the teachers of my children to have good judgment, so I think it's relevant.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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I never understood why people use their own genitalia. Just google for a plausible looking pic and send that. Even choose a nicer one if you like. By the time you are in the throws of passion I would think it unlikely someone would query it.

I would never request such explicit pictures from anyone but I would consider it a huge abuse of trust if I found out someone used wrong pictures claiming they're theirs, and that would be the end of that relationship.

I'm with you. But isn't it possible that the type of person that wants nudes also wouldn't be too bothered if you sent them fakes?

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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> If that's all it took, Samir is an idiot. Oh you're so smart you have never been scammed in your life. Scammers pray on weakness, one day you'll be weak one way or another and it can happen to you. Don't be too quick insulting people of being "idiots". Only scammers themselves think that way.

Samir receives a phone call from an unknown woman. The woman sounds really hot and sounds like she likes him. Samir arranges to meet the woman at his home, only to find it's actually a man. Samir is subsequently tied up and robbed of all his money and belongings. Is Samir an idiot (Y/N)?:

Samir is your grandpa who is showing signs of Alzheimer's. You are tied up in a legal battle to take custody of him. He's been roughed up and now fears for his life.

Did your grandpa deserve that (Y/N)?

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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> The next day she sends me a message: "Hi, how are you? I saw your profile and I liked you." So I looked at her profile and, I mean, she was really hot If that's all it took, Samir is an idiot.

- Samir is an idiot.

- The people who are scamming Samir are criminals.

One does not preclude the other. It's called "preying on the weak" and it's the reason why we have laws and stuff.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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> The next day she sends me a message: "Hi, how are you? I saw your profile and I liked you." So I looked at her profile and, I mean, she was really hot If that's all it took, Samir is an idiot.

> If that's all it took, Samir is an idiot. Oh you're so smart you have never been scammed in your life. Scammers pray on weakness, one day you'll be weak one way or another and it can happen to you. Don't be too quick insulting people of being "idiots". Only scammers themselves think that way.

I've never been successfully scammed.

Re: The Skype sex scam – a fortune built on shame

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> If that's all it took, Samir is an idiot. Oh you're so smart you have never been scammed in your life. Scammers pray on weakness, one day you'll be weak one way or another and it can happen to you. Don't be too quick insulting people of being "idiots". Only scammers themselves think that way.

I've never been successfully scammed.

Congratulations.
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