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Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by Tepix »

networked wrote: post #57
voltagex_ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

Here are the results for a Kimsufi KS-1 server which has an Intel Atom N-2800 CPU (1.86Ghz, Dual Core, 4 Threads) and 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD for 6€/month. I'm posting them here because they are competing in the low-end dedicated server space:

nbench:

    CPU                 : 4 CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800   @ 1.86GHz 798MHz
    L2 Cache            : 512 KB
    OS                  : Linux 4.2.0-25-generic
    C compiler          : gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1) 
    libc                : libc-2.19.so
    MEMORY INDEX        : 11.834
    INTEGER INDEX       : 11.540
    FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 8.730
openssl speed results at http://pastebin.com/2dfPPx2t

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by pyvpx »

morganvachon wrote: post #67
pyvpx wrote: post #39

how easy is it to boot/install your own OS on these bare metal servers? some of these offers look interesting for unikernels.

I don't have any experience with Scaleway, but Vultr allows you to upload your own ISO and install it (even Windows Server). However, it's purely a VPS at competitive prices, not bare metal. Their bare metal servers start at $60USD/month.

thanks. I'm familiar with Vultr and always on the look out for alternatives :)

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

siscia wrote: post #17
Ambroos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what scares me a bit. The multi-core performance is great (considering their pricing), but single-threaded performance is quite a bit below what the competition gets you. If you're running a web server with something single-threaded (like PHP) requests might start taking a bit longer than you're used to.

Well, that is the whole point, you are suppose to have a whole bunch of small, inexpensive, power efficient, cores. If the software you normally use doesn't take advantage of, at least, multi core hardware, then you can obtain more value from other hosting provider... On the other hand if your software can takes advantages of multicore hardware, or -- even better -- multi node architecture, then scaleway is likely th…

Nearly no web framework is per request multi core (e.g. multi core HTML / JSON rendering, assuming backend operations already async). So each request will be slow.

[Edit:] Not sure for the downvote, would be interested what's wrong in my comment.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by zschallz »

zx2c4 wrote: post #35
zschallz wrote: post #25

The blade servers at Delimiter ( https://www.delimiter.com/ ) are even more affordable. I pay $20 a month for a dual Xeon blade with 16gb of ram. They did have a very long downtime this year with no service credit, but uptime has been reasonable over the past year. If you're looking for a hobby box it's a pretty good deal.

I got super excited at first, but then... The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56... These are super ancient. If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from t…

Kimsufi is good (used to be with them), but there are a few drawbacks: 1. Only one IP allowed. No way to request more. 2. No KVM access-- Delimiter has HP iLO

I have to disagree about the better hardware as well because even the slower Delimiter offering is faster than Kimsufi's fastest offering: https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5420+%40+2.... vs http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5504+%40...

OVH's SoYouStart is also a good choice, but it is pricy in comparison.

Both Kimsufi/Delimiter/Et al should really only be used where support or downtime doesn't matter.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by newton10471 »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #70
zx2c4 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got super excited at first, but then... The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56... These are super ancient. If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from t…

kimsufi doesn't look bad but I don't find anywhere their cancellation policy

It's in the FAQ, under "When can I ask for a service to be cancelled?": https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/faq/

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by tronje »

cateye wrote: post #45

How would this compare to Hetzner offerings? https://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver

I don't think there's much to compare there. Hetzner's servers are a completely different price range. Unless you get a used one here: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market (URL looks suspicious, but it's Hetzner, I promise). These are servers that are fairly old and out-dated and whose users have discontinued their contracts; now they're being auctioned off so Hetzner doesn't have to throw them out. But these, I'd say, are also difficult to compare because of the old hardware vs. the new but low-cost hardware of the scaleway ones.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by drakenot »

nicolas314 wrote: post #69
kyriakos wrote: post #2

the prices look sweet. anyone has experience with them? How's the network stability? support response times?

For what it's worth: I created an account to try it out in January, played a bit with a cheap instance, and deleted the instance. Got billed in February (about 1€) while there was strictly no activity going on. Got to wait until end of March for the account to close, and with everything turned off I can see another bill coming in for 0.50€. Cannot remove my credit card details. Don't care much about the undue handful…

Did you release your public IPv4 address?

This isn't done automatically and I believe it is billed at 0.50€ per address while you are "holding on" to an unused address.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by imaginenore »

tronje wrote: post #87
cateye wrote: post #45

How would this compare to Hetzner offerings? https://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver

I don't think there's much to compare there. Hetzner's servers are a completely different price range. Unless you get a used one here: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market (URL looks suspicious, but it's Hetzner, I promise). These are servers that are fairly old and out-dated and whose users have discontinued their contracts; now they're being auctioned off so Hetzner doesn't have to throw them out. But these, I…

Hetzner has cheap VPSs:

https://www.hetzner.de/de/hosting/produkte_vserver/cx30

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