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Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

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Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

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post #54

> There is one caveat to all this. Apple won’t allow a newer Mac to download versions of OS X that aren’t compatible with that Mac, so on a 27-inch iMac with Retina display, for instance, the App Store app refuses to let you download Mac OS X 10.7 Lion. It's an edge case, but it's still annoying that I can't do this. What if I'm trying to get a non-functional older Mac running again? Stopping all users from doing thi…

There's a reason: Lion didn't have drivers for the hardware in question. OS X has all drivers, like for graphics etc. built in. That's why you're limited to versions after you Mac was made.

Sorry, I didn't explain myself well enough. What if I want to download a specific image on a different Mac to the one I want to install the OS on?

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#82
post #14

Completely by-the-by, but I couldn't help but notice the small advertisement at the bottom for Smile PDFPen[0]. I'm using uBlock Origin, but this wasn't blocked by it, presumably because it's unique to this site, and is indistinguishable from the rest of the content. However, it's very unobtrusive, doesn't track me at all and has no influence on the actual content of the article, so I have no problems with it being h…

Adblock Plus has such guidelines for the "acceptable ads" it lets through by default.

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#83
post #2

Apple has been getting sloppier and sloppier over the past 5 years or so. For instance, even if you have selected "automatically set my timezone based on my location", it won't update unless you actually open the date/time preferences panel every time you change zones.

This always used to be a problem for me but it's been working recently (Since Yosemite? El Cap? Not sure)

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#84
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe they're saying that it is related to Apple's release schedule because having a hard deadline every year and a fixed feature set for that hard deadline means that you run into problems with quality. I would dearly love for Apple to take a year or two (or, hell, five, I'm happy with the current feature set) and just fix bugs. No new features, just bugs. Do another Snow Leopard release, or three.

The funny thing is you can kindof tell Apple sortof heard the complaints out there, and that some of the buzz around El Capitan was that this is what it was supposed to be. From what El Capitan is... it seems reasonable to conclude that either they simply don't have the management/talent to pull this off anymore, or they only care enough to pretend to do it rather than actually focus on it.

Anecdotal of course, but El Cap really did solve all of the instability and weirdness I had with Yosemite. I went from rebooting once a week due to random slowdowns (typing lag), graphical glitches or freezes back to rebooting only when there was an OS update.

AirDrop still doesn't work though...

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#85

I was bitten by this this week. Tried to reuse my installer to install OS X El Capitan on a MBP without redownloading it over my super-fast 2Mbps internet connection. First, I try to install it by just copying the installer app - "can't be verified". Then I make a bootable USB stick using DiskMaker X - "can't be verified". I run an integrity check on the installer - all good. I then try running `/path/to/Install\ OS\…

super-fast 2Mbps internet connection Don't complain. Even with torrents and 100Mbps fiber, we max out at 1MB/sec here. It reportedly costs 20,000CNY/month (~USD$4500) for an uninhibited 512k connection out of mainland China, if you can get it. (You generally can't.)

There is something wrong with your connection; where are you? I'm in Suzhou, I have no problem maxing out my connection downloading things outside of the GFW. It starts slow but speeds up about a minute in usually. With VPN turned on I am capped at about 10Mbps. Direct lines are easy to get, we had one for a while but decided getting everyone needed a connection, a VPN account was enough. We were paying US$2k for a 10Mbps "dedicated line" to HK.

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#86
post #39

I had a handful of apps I use all the time stop working entirely about a week ago. They were purchased from the App Store but are no longer in the App Store. I am furious. I am willing to bet the expired certificate is the culprit. I've had to carefully maintain the .app's myself across a couple Mac's as Apple stopped letting you download things that are no longer in the store. Now they just don't work at all. The ol…

Let's not forget it's not exactly Apple's fault that some developers remove their apps from the App Store. While it's annoying, and we can wish all we want that Apple would make apps permanently available once downloaded, it's really the developer of the app that has failed you, not Apple.

Doesn't it cost devs $99/year to be in the app store? That 's an incentive to remove quit the store if you aren't making enough money.

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

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All of this is just more evidence driving me away from using any kind of app store. I download and install apks on my android phone, and executable/tar installers on my computers. It's also the reason why I'll never buy an iOS device, or even open the Windows 10 store.

The best app stores are the ones beginning with apt-get, yum, slapt-get etc. I'd very much like to see a real Linux/Unix phone with a battery that isn't a joke being played on consumers. I'm tired of looking after an smartphone that requires as much care and time as a small child.

> The best app stores are the ones beginning with apt-get, yum, slapt-get etc

At least apt is as pissy about expired GPG keys as MacOS is about expired code signing certificates.

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#88
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or TimeMachine "sparsebundle already in use" is the FOAD of error messages. I do love how the (now stale) tools to fix this are maintained by a volunteer on an external site unrelated to apple. I try not to be too grumpy about it, but I paid $3k for a laptop not to have to fucking deal with windows-style normal operation of the OS and related tools is busted and you're gonna sink hours into debugging it. And least wh…

I switched from OSX Yosemite to Windows 8.1 a while back. I have had substantially fewer problems with Windows 8.1.

Just yesterday I performed a clean install of Windows 10 on my desktop work computer. After joining our domain (configured in the most standard way possible), the start menu stopped working and edge couldn't start anymore. All commands to fix this situation (through powershell) gave cryptic hexadecimal error codes. After a few hours it turns out the Windows Firewall service was disabled. How this causes the Start Menu to malfunction, I don't know...

Again this was a clean installation. Windows 10 is a joke.

Re: Previously Downloaded OS X Installers No Longer Work

#89
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

super-fast 2Mbps internet connection Don't complain. Even with torrents and 100Mbps fiber, we max out at 1MB/sec here. It reportedly costs 20,000CNY/month (~USD$4500) for an uninhibited 512k connection out of mainland China, if you can get it. (You generally can't.)

There is something wrong with your connection; where are you? I'm in Suzhou, I have no problem maxing out my connection downloading things outside of the GFW. It starts slow but speeds up about a minute in usually. With VPN turned on I am capped at about 10Mbps. Direct lines are easy to get, we had one for a while but decided getting everyone needed a connection, a VPN account was enough. We were paying US$2k for a 1…

You're next to Shanghai. I'm in Yunnan. Different world.
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