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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Is it me or the visualization is very hard to follow? E.g. if you highlight the 'Dancers and Choreographers' section, it's not at all clear that more female dancers marry male welders.

Of all the lines starting at 'Dancers and Choreographers' which are initially red, the thickest one is by far the one that is blue at the other end and ends at 'Welding, Soldering, and Brazing Workers'. I think that's the intended way of drawing that conclusion from the graph. Overall I'm satisfied with the visualization itself, but it would be nice to have more sorting options.

This is one of the interesting connections on the chart. My theory (being an ex-welder as well as a dancer) is that both of these are strongly one-gender dominated professions - almost all my welding friends were male and almost all my dancing friends were female (in three different states no less). And for the majority of marriages up to this point in largely heterosexual historical data, you don't meet many people of the opposite gender to marry in your regular day. The one exception is when set workers (male welders) are around a stage all day where the performers (female dancers) are doing the show. So you get these relatively few places to meet a potential mate that turn up in funny combos.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#85

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> My sister and her friends are all pretty educated women.

What do you mean by this exactly? PhDs? MDs?

> These days, they're all still single and reaching/past 30 and no man can scratch their itch.

Could you give examples of the occupations of the rejected suitors?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#87
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because that's not tracked as a profession beacuse it's not really one. You are tracked by what you actually learned. People become stay at home mums/dad in the relationship, not before.

> Probably because that's not tracked as a profession beacuse it's not really one. Anyone who thinks being a homemaker is not a profession has no clue what it entails. If you consider a couple as a single unit, it's simply optimizing by specialization. When you look at the cost of baby-sitting/nannies it makes a lot of sense too. Why make $40K extra if I'm going to spend $35K on a nanny? > You are tracked by what you…

Anyone who thinks being a homemaker is not a profession has no clue what it entails.

I was married to a stay-at-home mom for 12 years. When she moved into an apartment and left me with the 4,000 square foot house and our three kids I realized just how ridiculously easy being a stay-at-home parent is when you have kids in full day school. I'm a software engineer that works 40 hours per week from home and I have no trouble keeping up the house, the kids homework, the kids activities (karate, cheerleading and basketball right now) in addition to a full time job. For home cleaning and laundry I hire kids from the local university for $10 to $15 per hour from Care.com for a total of 3 hours per week.

My soon-to-be-ex wife used to spend over 8 hours per day on Facebook. Not surprising considering she was literally sitting at home by herself for 8 to 9 hours per day. Her mom was a stay-at-home mom as well and she used to brag about sitting around at home all day and then when the husband would surprise her by coming home for lunch she would grab the vacuum cleaner and pretend to vacuum. Keeping up a house and taking care of kids over 5 is not a full-time job. Don't get me wrong - you can make it a full time job by being incredibly inefficient, doing things for your kids that they should be doing on their own and doing inconsequential things that don't matter to anyone if they aren't done. But other than that, being a stay-at-home parent is not even close to being equivalent to a full time job.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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I guess I should stop using Tinder/OkCupid, and start going to teacher meetings

Teachers and Nurses appear often simply because there are a lot of them compared to all other occupations. There are, say, 100times more female teachers than female X for all other X. Most common human Bayesian fallacy: forgetting the priors.

Yes, I think this visualization would be FAR more helpful if the weighted lines were adjusted by the relative population in each group. Or at the very least make each group a different sized bubble so you aren't surprised when so many lines seem to keep going back to it.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#90
post #21

The usability of the page is pathetic. First, the fonts are too small. If you enlarge then you can't scroll horizontally to see the rest of the titles because the lines get in the way. Didn't anyone think to make the graph clickable instead of just mouse-over. And on top of everything we have the heading of the site that floats and gets in the way. Fucking hell. Someone saw the graph and said, wow let's just use it b…

Worts part: the search implementation is very poor.

Typing "Teacher" will give you the following options Postsecondary Teachers, Special Education Teachers, Secondary School Teachers, Other Teachers and Instructors, Preschool and Kindergarten Teachers.

However it will not give you Elementary and Middle School Teachers.

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