It's already on Android ie via WhatsApp.
Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
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Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#82This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more. The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue. I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago. I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard, especially a standard with mor…
Each rule we follow blindly is a stupid one. If the introduction of a new sign just promotes hate and brings no advantages, then there is no value gained.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
No need. The Unicode Consortium is not a therapeutic institution. It's about humans and their language, not about happiness. The Unicode Consortium is a non-profit corporation devoted to developing, maintaining, and promoting software internationalization standards and data, particularly the Unicode Standard, which specifies the representation of text in all modern software products and standards. The Unicode Consort…
> It's about humans and their language Particularly relevant because e.g.: * is offensive in Brazil. * is offensive in the middle-east. Unicode assigns numbers to the symbols. Humans assign meanings to the symbols.
> is offensive in Brazil.
Well, not really. It may be, or may not. People use it as an Ok symbol too, what makes it quite useless for either use.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Communicating that a conversation is now at an end is often a useful feature, rather than a bug.
But using this symbol is ending the conversation in a disrespectful way, thereby nullifying the rest of the communication.
Who says that a communication is magically "nullified" if it's ended disrespectfully? My expression of negativity and disrespect is just as valid - if not more so - than trying to conceal it in platitudes like you seem to be implying a preference for.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#85It's offensive, a sad commentary on humanity, and I don't mind being down voted on Hacker News for stating it openly. (Actually, if you really want to do things right, just flip me off, yes?)
> It's offensive
By what measure? To whom?
> a sad commentary on humanity
Again: by what measure?
Offensiveness is arbitrary.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Communicating that a conversation is now at an end is often a useful feature, rather than a bug.
But using this symbol is ending the conversation in a disrespectful way, thereby nullifying the rest of the communication.
Communicating disrespect is a useful message in and of itself. If I am telling someone to get lost, I don't want to have to pussyfoot around like some character in an Elizabethan novel.
edit - though maybe a Shakespearian play. I wonder if they have an emoji for biting your thumb at someone.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#87This serves as a reminder that the Unicode standard is remarkable US centric at times. Where's the guy flipping the bottom of his chin? Where's whatever the equivalent in Bangladesh is? (I'm sure there is one...)
Emoji is actually more Japan centric, hence the numerous sushi emoji, bento box emoji and various other Japanese items.
Yeah, that's the DoCoMo legacy shining through.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#88It's offensive, a sad commentary on humanity, and I don't mind being down voted on Hacker News for stating it openly. (Actually, if you really want to do things right, just flip me off, yes?)
Emojis are supposed to be for fun. Some people enjoy playfully teasing their friends. Of course yes, this could be abused, but choice words are _much_ more hurtful than a picture of a middle finger.
Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji
#89And the V sign is there but the reverse two fingered salute is not. Though perhaps that would lead to too much confusion and accidental offense between cultures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#As_an_insult
Au contraire: U+1F594 Unfortunately they name it 'REVERSED VICTORY HAND', which might get people in trouble.
Using this all the time now :) Thanks