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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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What if you claim it first against them ? You wouldn't be punished for a false claim, since they're not.

uhh, no Reasonable people can believe they have a legitimate ownership right when they petition YouTube for copyright enforcement for AI-generated work. The courts might eventually disagree, but that's a different thing than knowingly making a fraudulent misrepresentations to YouTube for financial benefit. This difference makes the proposed behavior criminal fraud . I highly recommend not risking twenty years of pris…

It's not knowing misrepresentation. You AI-generated the same video, so how were you to know it wasn't yours? Just don't show them this HN thread.

Besides, nobody's actually checking

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

I kinda tend to agree with you. Today I watched Adam Neely’s latest video on Berkekey teaching AI songwriting (no I didn’t made that up unfortunately) and he mentions how there is a class element to AI. It’s not dissimilar to how none of the silicon valley oligarchs give their children smart phones or let them use social media.

Wealthier and more educated parents have more time and money to devoute to their kids education, hobbies, vacations etc. If you are single care mom working 10-12h shifts each day like mine (like mine), how the hell is it even possible to watch constantly what your kids do alone sfter school, or find the energy to do so when you are home? Does being poor and divorced make you a bad parent? Also you have no idea what content kids are being offered unless you are there next to them - I’m almost forty (no kids) and I have no idea what apps kids use or what is “cool” to them. No wonder boomers let their kids hang around in Habbo Hotel unsupervised. It’s just some kids video game right?

So as much I would just like to blame bad parenting I think we need laws and regulations on this stuff. We completely dropped the ball as a society on social media, we can’t let the same happen with AI.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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I am sorry for confusion. I’m typing on the phone and accidentally preessed reply before writing full answer. I started updating my comment above as soon as I saw that I posted reply (the one that your answer addresses). Hope that clarifies my position and gives you an explanation where I disagree with your comment.

I don’t think we’re making ourselves sufficiently understood to each other, and if you keep lobbing accusations at me without understanding what I’m saying, we’re not going to have a productive discussion. I’ll address just a couple of quick points. > Look at like any professional reviewing let’s say old movies. Thousands of errors Mistakes are not the same thing as slop. It’s not at all related. Here’s the definitio…

Ok, it could be a language barrier again, but this thread started with you interpreting my words in a way I didn’t mean. Then, when I interpreted your wording differently from how you intended, you treated my reading as if it were completely baseless and unfair.

Here is the wording I was reacting to:

>> and ai art can be good.

> What is “good” here? Aesthetically pleasing? Then sure, that’s a subjective matter of opinion. Even the yuckiest of gore can be aesthetically pleasing to the right person. Cronenberg has a cult following for a reason.

To me, it feels like you are having it both ways. First, you treated my wording - “even worse” - as meaningful according to its normal English meaning, and even after I explained what I meant, you still went back to the dictionary definition. But when your own wording was quite loaded: “the yuckiest of gore,” “to the right person,” and “cult following” - and I read it that way, you dismissed my reading as assumptions in my head.

That feels like a double standard. I was expected to accept the normal meaning of my wording, but your wording was supposed to be judged only by your later explanation of intent. I should’ve known, obviously, that you like gore.

I accept your clarification, but I do not accept that my reading was unreasonable. We clearly read tone and meaning differently here.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#796

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

To be honest, this comment reads to me like LLM output. You have a history of comments that were clearly written by a human, with character, but this comment stands out to me as an outlier. It has that semi-neutral, slightly pontificating tone of an LLM that just feels off in a way that's difficult to articulate. I truly mean no offense. There's clearly a human behind this account.

You shouldn't be getting down voted. That comment was definitely generated by an LLM and it was actually disturbing to me that so many people were replying as if it weren't glaringly obvious.

It's not foo, it's bar. Baz became qux. That's foobar. Baar baaz — quux quuz.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Something, something, people want to see this, therefore GenAI and algorithms are good (no joke, someone actually replied this to me on the forum).

It's a tool. Tools can be used for good or ill. This tool is the hotness right now so it's quite overused in a lot of poorly fitting situations. This particular usage serves no socially beneficial purpose and needs to be regulated into non-existence (we at least shouldn't pay people to do it). The tool is still useful for a bunch of things but some people get irrationally defensive if you critique their favorite tool…

In your opinion, what is the positive aspect of this kind of AI video/voice generation tool that these videos are using?

In my opinion, AI video/voice generation is being used to scam and manipulate people en masse, without a compelling, good use case besides generating more (slop) content.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Rather than genuinely enjoying a well-made/actually entertaining AI content, people are just gonna blindly hate on anything AI-generated.

As they should. AI can't create art, because AI doesn't have a sense of expression.

Good thing humans know how to use AI and make kick ass content with it.

AI is a tool.

Artists and engineers using AI as a tool can get further than people not using it at all.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

My elderly uncle is completely addicted to these. We can barely complete a conversation without him getting bored and pulling out his phone to watch these nonsense videos. I don't even understand what the point is. The ones he watches are these clearly procedurally generated stories. It'd be one thing if the content was actually interesting, but ugh.

these videos are as close as we can get to plant electrodes directly in your brain's reward center, and repeatedly pressing the "reward" button. obviously not everyone is the same, but if it hits it hits hard.
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