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#794Earlier quoted context omitted.
> most people want a white collar job and send their kids to college Part of the reason for my prior comment is the clear fact that a not-insignificant percentage of white collar jobs are being massively devalued at the moment, which means many people who thought they'd be able to send their kids to college with income from such jobs won't. Considering that the field of robotics is so far behind LLMs in terms of clea…
I'm not sure how long this state of robotics will last. Dexterity is improving very fast. Robots are getting cheaper and cheaper. But also, a lot of the manual labor is quite expensive and only affordable as long as there are white collar workers who can pay for fancy bathroom remodelings and landscaping and so on. I don't know how a big deluge of reskilled pipefitters and HVAC technicians will be able to find work.…
> Will everyone just pay each other to do a bunch of handy work for each other?
May not be as crazy of a thought as it seems on the surface. There are many different types of not-easily-roboticized manual work, doable by people of varying skillsets and physical abilities, which will continue to hold value due to our basic physiological needs.
The lower bound, or 'floor', of this value is not going to sink lower than group consensus among wide swaths of the population allows.
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#796Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're right, you are using it wrong. An LLM can read code faster than you can, write code faster than you can, and knows more things than you do. By "you" I mean you, me, and anyone with a biological brain. Where LLMs are behind humans is depth of insight. Doing anything non-trivial requires insight. The key to effectively using LLMs is to provide the insight yourself, then let the LLM do the grunt work. Kind of lik…
> An LLM can read code faster than you can, write code faster than you can, and knows more things than you do. I don't agree. It can't write code at all , it can only copy things it's already seen. But, if that is true, why can't it solve my problem? > The key to effectively using LLMs is to provide the insight yourself, then let the LLM do the grunt work Okay, so how do I do that? Remember, I want to do ZERO TYPING.…
No such thing as a free lunch. Zero typing is an unrealistic and unachievable goal
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I don't doubt you, but I'm out of the loop. Who does this?
My uncle leads IT support teams, the org is measuring AI use in writing reports and tickets. The org has very poorly structured and obsolete processes (he's trying to straighten them up as he goes), AI will probably amplify the lack of structure, by making it easier for the work to _look_ as if someone carefully reviewed the issues and followed procedure. A friend is a team lead in an org that's mandating vibecoding…
Ticket writing is one thing. Does anyone see automated IT ticket resolution?
Seems tool vendors are introducing AI for issue resolution. But my sense is that in practice they struggle too with the real-life shitshow. Anyone try any of these systems yet?
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For sure. The more specialized or obscure of things you have to do, the less LLMs help you. Building a simple marketing website? Probably don’t waste your time - an LLM will probably be faster. Designing a new SLAM algorithm? Probably LLMs will spin around in circles helplessly. That being said, that was my experience several years ago… maybe state of the art has changed in the computer vision space.
> The more specialized or obscure of things you have to do, the less LLMs help you. I've been impressed by how this isn't quite true. A lot of my coding life is spent in the popular languages, which the LLMs obviously excel at. But a random dates-to-the-80s robotics language (Karel)? I unfortunately have to use it sometimes, and Claude ingested a 100s of pages long PDF manual for the language and now it's better at i…
> I've been impressed by how this isn't quite true.
I’d say it’s true, but the LLMs and humans don’t have the exact same definition of what “obscure” is.
Karel is almost a subset of Pascal with some keyword swaps. And there’s a LOT of Pascal (and similar languages) around.
From the PoV of a statistical based tool like an LLM, Karel is just another flavor of a very popular structure.
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I've used Claude Code to do everything from vibe-code personal apps including a terminal on top of libghostty to building my perfect desktop environment on NixOS (I'd never used Nix until then). I'm not sure why it isn't working for you. Maybe your expectation is a perfect one-shot or else it has zero value, and nothing in between? But my advice is to switch gears and see the "plan file" as the deliverable that you'r…
The first time I saw something like this in action was in a video about agentic blabla features in VS Code on the official VS Code YouTube channel. Pretty much write a complete and detailed specification, fire away and hope for the best. The workflow kinda clicked for me then but I still find a hard time adjusting to this potential new reality where slowly it won't make sense to generally write code "by hand" and onl…
Correction one week later: the book I was talking about is A History of Mathematics by Luke Hodgkin not the one I mentioned in my parent comment. I apologize for mixing them up.
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