I just canceled my WoW subscription because of this. I was so excited for phase 2. :( What a shitty thing for Blizzard to do.
Me too. I enjoyed it, but I can live without it.
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#792Absolutely agree, it's time for American video games to stop publishing in China. It's not worth the Chinese influence on our society.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21190952.
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#794Earlier quoted context omitted.
Look at it this way- they basically are not allowed to say anything else. I pity them but at the same time I hope things improve for them.
If it's voluntary, they could voluntarily say nothing instead.
"Voluntary" under pressure or fear for safety, repercussions, of course is not voluntary.
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#795The US needs to get serious here. We are in a battle for the future, make no mistake. We need to back our companies up when they promote our ideals and reprimand them when they bend to the will of enemy actors - CCP in specific.
CCP is an enemy actor and should be treated as such. Their ideals are no more valid than ours. So by default all should be given an equal footing. What happened here is not that.
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#796Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does the fact that the person making a political statement knew that they were making a political statement make their banning okay?
There's a difference between accidentally and knowingly breaking a rule. Regardless of if you feel the rule is fair or right, knowingly breaking is more egregious, e.g. manslaughter is not as bad as first or second degree murder.
Knowing that you're doing something that is not in the interest of Blizzard or China and may bring you trouble is not the same thing as rule-breaking.
For example, I have a first amendment right to stand on the street and cry out "that store over there has awful working conditions," and I'm not breaking any rules, but I'm well aware that the store may well not let me in anymore.
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Look at it this way- they basically are not allowed to say anything else. I pity them but at the same time I hope things improve for them.
Agreed. It's important to understand such things - to have compassion. It's why I also try to explain the circumstances in detail - in hopes that it may reduce the indoctrination, help them develop critical thinking further; building secret allies within the tyrant's machine.
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#798Did anyone else watch the recent South Park episode? I think it illuminates this matter rather nicely.
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#799Then we have to boycott Hearthstone. While the current case is neither surprising nor substantially important, it is important because of principle. Blizzard is not responsible for what players say in interviews. In our society, it still matters that people can tolerate other opinions. The Chinese government tries to make it a new normal that entire people can have their "feelings hurt" (what?) by mere non-insulting…
I have made similar set of argument, but against a religion. That an archaic religious dogma is winning over 21st century progressive principles. I got shut and banned for displaying something-phobia.
Not sure if you're talking about here or somewhere Blizzardy, but as far as here goes: you're right—religious flamewar isn't allowed, you've posted such comments before, and we ban accounts that do that. Comments like these, which users correctly flagged, would probably have gotten you banned here if we had seen them:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20646888
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#800To quote South Park, "You gotta lower your ideals of freedom if you want to suck on the warm teat of China." The saddest part about this is that Blizzard simultaneous says that it supports people's rights to express their individual thoughts and opinions while disqualifying and banning a player for doing exactly that. It's corporate doublespeak. I would have more respect for them if they were simply honest and said t…
But the soul is still oracular; amid the market's din,
List the ominous stern whisper from the Delphic cave within,
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"They enslave their children's children who make compromise with sin."