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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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cooper_ganglia wrote: post #487
rafram wrote: post #441

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> It’s one big club, and we’re not in it. I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here, but like it or not, most Americans do support Israel.

That's no longer true, nor should it be: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-ameri... From the article: >The public’s views of Israel have turned more negative over the past three years. More than half of U.S. adults (53%) now express an unfavorable opinion of Israel, up from 42% in March 2022 It turns out when you invade a country and commit a genocide, you become less popular. Putin figured that…

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Post by bllguo »

Pet_Ant wrote: post #495

I feel like the US is becoming like China. Very economically important obviously, but will end up culturally irrelevant. It's hard to build up that much ill-will and still be considered glamorous. I can be wrong, and this isn't my personal judgement, but a genuine prediction.

1. it is highly relevant outside the western bubble, 2. their domestic market is large enough that china does not have to whore itself out to the west like korea or japan, 3. you gloss over the deliberate suppression by the US regime. japan was not "culturally relevant" in the US before the late 80s when they bent the knee

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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lawlessone wrote: post #701
dmix wrote: post #668

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According to Gallup the majority of the US public supports Israel over Palestine, just as it has for decades. It's now "at it's lowest in 25 years" but it's still 46% vs 33% for Palestine, down from around 60% pro Israel in prior years. https://thecradle.co/articles/us-popular-support-for-israel-... About 10% of Americans identify as evangelical protestants https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/how-many-evangelicals-…

That drops quite bad for Israel though if means more Americans wouldn't mind cutting off support for them. A lot more Americans support helping Ukraine.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by insane_dreamer »

EasyMark wrote: post #779
cooper_ganglia wrote: post #239

Obama withdrew all US funds from UNESCO in 2011 as well, due to Palestine being admitted in. This isn't anything particularly noteworthy, just more capitulating to Israel, which is annoying.

I really wish we weren't a puppet state of Israel. What they're doing in Palestine currently turns my stomach. It's one thing to get your people back after the horrible attack from Hamas, it's another to mow down people who are just trying to get food with a submachine gun.

> mow down people who are just trying to get food with a submachine gun

not to mention that Hamas was supposed already destroyed 6 months ago

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Post by skybrian »

landl0rd wrote: post #683
skybrian wrote: post #639

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I don't know what's involved, but if no one is willing to accept Gazans then it seems like that might be a practical difficulty?

Hmm why do many countries not want to accept Palestinians? - Supported Saddam in Kuwait - Supported Saddam in Iraq - Massacred Christians in Lebanon - Tried to overthrow Jordan - Caused chaos in Syria - Destabilized Libya - Aligned with iranian axis despite gulf states (eg Saudi) hosting at that time - Complained about Egypt-Israel peace despite the former being the only country to send men to die for them - Sent jih…

It's not that many people if divided up among many countries. These don't seem like reasons not to accept women and children from a war zone as refugees. Perhaps with some limits.

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Post by EasyMark »

intalentive wrote: post #759
Pet_Ant wrote: post #495

I feel like the US is becoming like China. Very economically important obviously, but will end up culturally irrelevant. It's hard to build up that much ill-will and still be considered glamorous. I can be wrong, and this isn't my personal judgement, but a genuine prediction.

In what respect is the US becoming like China?

Power projected from one source (dear leader) rather than a triumvirate of 3 branches of a democratic-republic government as described in the Constitution.

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Post by DemiGuru »

ilaksh wrote: post #774
DemiGuru wrote: post #767

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"...a lot of land stolen" let me just say that your limited understanding is painful.

Can you explain? I'm going to ignore your arrogant decision because I am genuinely curious. What is it about Israeli "settlements" that makes it different from stealing land?

Only in a morally inverted world is a nation blamed for keeping land it took while fending off an attack.

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Post by impossiblefork »

breppp wrote: post #739
impossiblefork wrote: post #561

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>This is enough under international law to prevent Israel from passing any aid, as it works to assist its enemy's forces. No. Article 54 of the additional protocol I ( https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/arti... ) only allows destruction of objects etc. necessary for the sustenance of the civilian population if they are solely used for the members of the armed forces. So even if Hamas stole the va…

I think you are quoting the wrong article, yours talk about attacking humanitarian aid, this one concerns free passage of food, is more relevant and it does not always apply https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/art... this is complex however, https://lieber.westpoint.edu/siege-law/

Mine talks about destroying greenhouses, fields, food, etc. as has in fact been done.

I'm thinking that as long as there's food, maybe you can destroy them, but if you then, having destroyed them while there is food, restricts the supply you are still breaking the treaty.

There's also article 54 §1 of additional protocol I.

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Post by skybrian »

themgt wrote: post #657
tguvot wrote: post #627

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it's not that it's hard to leave gaza. it's just nobody willing to accept gazans. and trumps plan that talks about voluntary migration out of gaza is been described as genocide and ethnic cleansing (btw, 75% of them actually registered as refugees by unrwa for past many decades) i never saw anybody been against migration of population out of war zone to safety. in case of ukrainian refugees it was widely discussed th…

i never saw anybody been against migration of population out of war zone to safety. I can't think of any comparable historical example of declaring a people's entire territory a war zone and migrating a substantial/majority of the entire population out. Can you? The reality is they'd be unlikely to ever be able/allowed to return, and as such the actual purpose of such a project would be ethnically cleansing the terri…

My guess is that many people wouldn't want to leave, but helping some people to leave also helps those who stay: fewer mouths to feed, less work for very strained medical facilities, and so on.

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Post by EasyMark »

netsharc wrote: post #35
rtkwe wrote: post #15

Another tantrum thrown because the world refuses to align with their twisted view. Shocking to thing we're only ~1/8th through this term.

Why fantasize that the GOP isn't going to do a Putin/Erdogan/Suharto? Those countries have "democratic" elections and keep electing the same president, they must be hella great guys!

Because their support will fall off a cliff when their charismatic (to them) cult leader is gone in 2028, they will have to realign or lose voters.
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