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if you want to use a web browser - use Brave browser.
Which uses Chromium under the hood adding to the Chrome render engine monoculture.
Not to mention buying into their really gross ad-replacement scheme.
Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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I use DuckDuckGo exclusively and don't feel like my life is worse for it. It really is good enough. And when you also factor in that you're not helping Google build a profile on you, it's better than Google.
I use DDG as default search for little over a year now. Mostly I am quite happy with it, and do not have to fall back to Google. But for some searches I do have to do that. E.g. searching for a HN discussion from the last week: usually no hit. Also image and video search yield surprisingly little results. This last thing is my biggest complaint on DDG.
Sure, sometimes I too benefit from adding a !g to the search query.
The perverse pleasure of knowing Google is out of the loop is a good compensation for a slightly worse search experience
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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I assume this is the engineering at work. "Okay, users are confused by how they're logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let's make them one and the same". "Okay, but once you're logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear" "Ugh, let's just notify the u…
Furthermore, I see all this anger about this technical decision affecting peoples privacy, but have not yet seen someone provide a good engineering solution to the problem it was trying to solve. Example Use Case: I was contacted by my poor old mother recently who said that she was logged into "The Google" but was seeing the wrong emails! She was horribly confused. What had happened was that my sister had checked her…
I'm not generally a fan of the privacy hysteria around Google/FB, etc. But I think the solution here is pretty clear: Don't build a login system for your browser. It's inherently confusing.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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> However, telling the workers to "just quit" won't solve anything. In fact, it guarantees that the company will have a higher percentage of people you morally disagree with leading to, by your moral standards and actions, a more evil product. Not necessarily. Thank God Albert Einstein "just quit" as opposed to returning to Germany to influence it from the inside and change it from within. Perhaps that engineer could…
I drew a different conclusion from reading the parent. The issue with "your vote doesn't matter", however true it may be, is that the decision not to vote results in removing yourself from the decision-making process, giving more power to those you oppose. That seems to be specifically what the parent is arguing not to do, as someone who has quit no longer has any power within the organization.
That may be true in a closed system, but Google is not a closed system, and that person can do any number of things outside of that system.
A person leaving is essentially a vote. It says I no longer have faith in the decision makers of this current group of leaders at google. You no longer will offer your value to them - that on its own, is most likely a loss (they would not have kept you if you didn't offer value.) On top of that, you add value to a potential competitor, or the EFF, or here on HN, where many have already switched to Firefox.
On its own, it doesn't mean much. But collectively, it could be devastating.
If not, oh well. My job isn't to ensure Google decides to be good and not evil. But I can determine if I will support something evil or not. And I choose not.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
#785Keep in mind that Google dropped the motto "Don't be evil." So this change is in compliance with Google ethics now.
https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html
No they didn't. It's right at the bottom here.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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Most "full ad-blocking" requires being rooted on an Android device too. And you've obviously not done very much research about what data Apple collects vs Google. Simply using each OS will show you a big difference in philosophy. Google makes you approve all permissions when you install an app without clearly stating what it means. iOS apps have to ask for specific permission the first time they want to use GPS, came…
> Most "full ad-blocking" requires being rooted on an Android device too. Nope. https://blokada.org/index.html > And you've obviously not done very much research about what data Apple collects vs Google. I showed you exactly how Apple collects more data from iOS than Google does from Android. You're trying to Pee-wee Herman your way out of this with an "I know you are but what am I?" > Google makes you approve all pe…
Signal is not an "SMS app". Signal is an end-to-end encrypted messaging app, that just happens to also support SMS. Note that if you use Signal as your SMS app, to send SMS messages, they are not encrypted.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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I first tried DDG years ago. It really wasn't great. The results and astetics were not up to snuff. I went back to google. About a year ago I decided to try DDG again. I've been using DDG ever since. Maybe once a month I'll google something. I use chrome only for google products like gmail.
DDG sucks and hasn’t really improved at all. I’ve used it for a longtime but I use bangs endlessly. Unless you can provide some quantifiable metric to prove its “getting better” then it’s delusion getting the better of you. DDG uses other search engines for results (such as bing), so unless you agree Bing is improving, it’s just a placebo. DDG is only useful because we can all fall back on g!. It’s sad but true. Ther…
That's kind of how I feel about DDG but am concerned that they don't offer the privacy they promise since they aren't open source and are hosted on AWS. Feel free to try something I created....jivesearch.com. You can get all the !bangs they have.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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Just to chime in, I’ve found Spotlight on iOS to cover about 85% of my needs. It uses Bing for web results, but I often don’t even need the web results. Everything else I just invoke DuckDuckGo or Startpage.
Spotlight on iOS actually sources data from Google now. See: https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/25/apple-switches-from-bing-t...
Well.. time to throw iOS in the bin, sold out to the just be evil mob.
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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Furthermore, I see all this anger about this technical decision affecting peoples privacy, but have not yet seen someone provide a good engineering solution to the problem it was trying to solve. Example Use Case: I was contacted by my poor old mother recently who said that she was logged into "The Google" but was seeing the wrong emails! She was horribly confused. What had happened was that my sister had checked her…
I'm not generally a fan of the privacy hysteria around Google/FB, etc. But I think the solution here is pretty clear: Don't build a login system for your browser. It's inherently confusing.
It's inherently confusing.
Rubbish.
What's confusing is having a zillion usernames and passwords for every site on the internet, and "doing it right" (which only a tiny percentage do) requires installing password manager extensions in your browser. In practice billions of users use the same insecure password everywhere including their banks.
You may or may not like the implications of centralizing authentication to a few players, but it is a massive improvement in security and usability over what we have now.
I am quite happy with this change, and hope to see "log into chrome" as the equivalent of "log into all websites that use google auth". It will simplify not only my own life, but all of my customers' lives (my B2B SaaS service uses Google auth).
Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies
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System extensions are not really extensions, they're just parts of built-in browser functionality that have been implemented by programmers with good code hygiene. It's unfair to describe these as "installing random extensions without asking" because you would then have to admit that it's equally true of every new feature of every software program that is ever updated.
I don't think it's unfair; I can disable automatic software updates. I can't disable Firefox installing secret extensions behind my back.
That is a logically incoherent statement. The only mechanism Mozilla has for "installing secret extensions" is via software updates. If you turn that off, they can't install anything.