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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by mittensc »

account42 wrote: post #758
mittensc wrote: post #700

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What's there to like about Trump? And how do those compare against all the negative things he's done/caused so far?

There is disliking Trump and then there is thinking that Trump is so bad that the EU would break international copyright agreements just to spite him.

You're saying that like it's not a possibility.

What could push EU to do that?

Arbitrary tarrifs?

Invasion/threats of invasion?

It wouldn't be out of spite, nothing ever is, it would be a response and it is a valid concern seeing as Trump has done the above

Do you think otherwise?

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

It was long expected. Sad news, but to be honest I can count on my one hand how many games I replayed throughout the years. Since most of them are one shot, the story and gameplay is usually not that strong to warrant a replay. So, other than becoming exposed to Sony's aggressive pricing antics, there is not much to be seen here.

At the same time this might bring people closer together (eeerrrm, it won't) by sharing their accounts between each other.

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Post by Mindwipe »

II2II wrote: post #576
Marcan wrote: post #447

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And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

> They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped. My take is somewhat difference: Sony is offloading the cost of their prior decisions onto consumers. For things like movies, they should have negotiated a contract where sold copies are sold copies and cannot be revoked (even if their right to sell/rent copies lapse). For things like the PS3 store, it cannot be run indefinitely. That sa…

> For things like movies, they should have negotiated a contract where sold copies are sold copies and cannot be revoked (even if their right to sell/rent copies lapse).

It's difficult to see how this could ever be possible without significant legislation changes. Nobody (but nobody) offers this, and in the vast majority of the world you literally can't buy out music rights in this way for any licensed music in the titles. That's why literally no online store offers this.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by philistine »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #729
philistine wrote: post #593

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People have convinced themselves that game key cards are terrible, when they're the exact same thing as the old style of cartridges, with the only difference that you don't have the 1.0 on it. People are convinced that game key cards will stop working at some point, when it's the reverse that will happen; your card will be fine, but won't work on a Switch 2, only a future console. Nintendo will close access to their…

Does the switch's "Match Version with Local Users" feature on the software update menu work for this, or is an internet connection strictly required the first time you insert a key card?

That's only for updates. The initial install must come from the eShop. That's not different for game key cards. When you first put a card in, you need to download the game from eShop. No exceptions.

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Post by ncr100 »

buran77 wrote: post #8

Discs are less convenient so people have slowly moved to digital sales. This worked even better for console manufacturers, cheaper to drop that disc reader, and the second hand market is effectively dead which increases new game sales. The side-effect most people didn't consider is that you never really own a digital copy. And the most relevant part is that you cannot transfer/sell a digital copy. For everything else…

Yes.

When you die, your digital assets may simply disappear.

There's no inheritance practice, that I know of, of transferring digital assets.

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Post by runarberg »

account42 wrote: post #752
runarberg wrote: post #454

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VHS was bad quality, DVD had good enough. The jump from bad to good enough has a much better impact then from good enough to amazing. While most people will make the switch to go from bad to good enough, not many will make the effort to switch from good enough to amazing, unless they are pushed in that direction. The jump between vinyl and CD was also massive, but vinyl was still good enough. what CDs had though over…

DVDs and VHS are more or less the same resolution. And depending on encode quality some DVDs can be even worse, although unlikely to be a problem for mainstream releases.

This is an overly reductive argument. Resolution is only a relatively small part of the quality. Generally people value sound quality much higher, which DVD brought to CD level, and Blu-Ray has exactly the same sound quality (nobody has speakers for the 7.1 surround sound). VHS also had interlacing, and older VHS also had plenty of the tape artifacts polluting the image, DVDs had none of those.

At the end of the VHS era (when DVDs had already been available for years) maybe you had a good enough (picture) quality on the first few plays of the tape (which you still had to rewind etc.), but at the same time you could go to your local video rental get a 5 year old DVD that had been played hundreds of times, had the same (or slightly better) picture quality, much better sound quality, no need to rewind, and tons of extra features.

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Post by smelendez »

Mindwipe wrote: post #774
II2II wrote: post #576

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> They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped. My take is somewhat difference: Sony is offloading the cost of their prior decisions onto consumers. For things like movies, they should have negotiated a contract where sold copies are sold copies and cannot be revoked (even if their right to sell/rent copies lapse). For things like the PS3 store, it cannot be run indefinitely. That sa…

> For things like movies, they should have negotiated a contract where sold copies are sold copies and cannot be revoked (even if their right to sell/rent copies lapse). It's difficult to see how this could ever be possible without significant legislation changes. Nobody (but nobody) offers this, and in the vast majority of the world you literally can't buy out music rights in this way for any licensed music in the t…

It works better with music because many stores will sell you a DRM-free mp3. Most movie stores are just “selling” you long-term streaming access.

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Post by saturn8601 »

jeandrek wrote: post #701
saturn8601 wrote: post #662

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Why DVD and not Blu-ray? The reason I said boomers buy DVD is because there are still a lot of senior citizens that are not internet savvy that like to rent out movies from their libraries, the dvds are simpler to operate, are more reliable from deep scratches, and a lot of boomers have simple equipment. Most of them don't care about perceived quality. This market is big enough that ironically DVDs may actually outli…

They're often cheaper and not everything is on Blu-ray. If Blu-ray was going really strong and overtook DVDs, I'd be happy about it. I don't really think DVDs are "simpler to operate" except for the fact that you only need cheaper equipment (though one can imagine someone with ingrained habits believing them to be "complicated").

>I don't really think DVDs are "simpler to operate" except for the fact that you only need cheaper equipment

Think of it from the point of view from senior citizens. They likely already have the equipment for DVD and are used to it. That alone is "simpler to operate". Yes Bluray could often have simpler menus but that existing inertia is something that is important as well because I dont think most senior citizens are actively seeking out newer tech if they dont need to.

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Post by rbits »

prmoustache wrote: post #581
cjk wrote: post #358

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Sony in particular is doubling down on platform exclusives again. I was waiting for Ghost of Yōtei to come out on PC, but Sony cancelled the port. We're well and truly fucked without physical media for exclusives like this.

Just don't buy them. Are you a drone controlled by FOMO?

They didn't say they were buying them. It is just undeniably a bad thing that you can't buy it without DRM. You can say "just don't buy it", but that doesn't make the existence of the DRM any better.
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