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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#772

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I read the announcement and other than the risk of a slippery slope into more invasive ID demands, I'm not sure I have a huge problem with it. The default experience will be the "teen" experience - they list what that entails - stuff that's flagged as adult/NSFW/etc. is blurred out until your age is verified, which for most(?) people will require ID or face scan. DMs/friend requ…

Clearly the outrage is about the slippery slope and the current techno-fascism gripping the US. I'm not being sarcastic.

You do it for the children now, you poo-poo concerns because "who uses discord for non gaming anyway" and you're just letting the foxes in the henhouse.

Twelve months from now and they'll want it for every chat.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Here's the October 2025 Discord data breach mentioned at the end of the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo > Discord, a messaging platform popular with gamers, says official ID photos of around 70,000 users have potentially been leaked after a cyber-attack. However, their senior director states in this Verge article: > The ID is immediately deleted. We do not keep any information around like your…

> We do not keep any information around like your name But they might be sending a copy to the NSA, similarly to how Alphabet, Yahoo, Apple, Meta etc. have been doing (PRISM program, part of the Snowden revelation [1]). The US has the legal mechanisms of requiring this to happen, secretly, such as NSLs [2]. [1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM [2] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

I bet the NSA does not even require their cooperation. They are probably already inside their systems.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#774

You’re out of your mind if you think I’m gonna upload ID to use a “shitposting about video games with friends” service.

You don't have to, you just can't access NSFW channels and servers.

I believe what you said is correct and this headline is incredibly misleading. Most people should not need to upload any ID. If you are so addicted to NSFW content on Discord, then it is a different story.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#775

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

Discord has been immensely hostile to the public in general since forever, and people love to flock to it and throw money at the company behind it. I don't expect the masses to change their incomprehensible habits just because of this.

Honestly... People deserve this. They deserve the consequences. They were warned. They chose this.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#776

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I read the announcement and other than the risk of a slippery slope into more invasive ID demands, I'm not sure I have a huge problem with it. The default experience will be the "teen" experience - they list what that entails - stuff that's flagged as adult/NSFW/etc. is blurred out until your age is verified, which for most(?) people will require ID or face scan. DMs/friend requ…

We're all going to have to scan our faces and upload our IDs just to use the internet because of your weird obsession with birth rates? Wonderful.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#777
I will go against the grain and say that I am happy that Discord is doing something about the NSFW content that is being fed to children on its platform. I don't use Discord that much personally but I heard from friends that it is a goto for NSFW content, similar to reddit.

Every time the topic of ID for 18+ content comes up, the entire internet melts down over "big brother" and "privacy", yet no one flinches at presenting ID for alcohol at the store. And further more, nobody offers an alternative solution the problem. Status quo isn't acceptable. "Kids will always find a way to bypass measures/access their porn", is also not an acceptable answer.

We as a society need to do something about the unprecedented levels of porn addiction in today's youth. "Enter your date of birth" prompts are performative and do nothing.

I will say I am usually the first person to oppose any sort of government overreach, I am very pro privacy.

I believe the energy put into the criticism and boycott of Discord should be put into finding solutions for verifying ID in a secure and private manner online. Something like Apple Pay for IDs?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#778
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I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Hi Tim! (We know each other :)) I'm curious whether you feel you're actually in control to actually make policy decisions about data protection or whether you feel you could be hit any day by the "$5 wrench" by the government any time they feel it necessary. I'm starting to feel that in this environment, nothing is safe, even if encrypted and on FOSS platforms.

Hey Dheera! It's been forever.

Personally, I advocate for self-hosting communications software, ideally on physical hardware that someone in your community has control over. Zulip runs great on old laptops, if you can solve the IP address problem for hosting it in your house.

And if you want to be extra careful, put your chat system behind a VPN/firewall, so it's difficult to identify what software is being used externally.

And if you're not going to do that, because it sounds like too much work, the next best thing is to at least pick a Cloud service where you can migrate your group to paranoid self-hosting overnight if you decide the work is now worth it.

Self-hosting this way doesn't protect against all threat models. I am human and have children who I love dearly, so it's hard to rule out the possibility of my being compelled to make a malicious release.

But at least the Zulip source code is entirely open and highly readable; so users would at least have a chance to notice and not upgrade. With a centralized architecture like Discord, you're entirely reliant on whisteblowers.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#779

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

so instead of discord, google, meta having access to private convos... we should all switch to Zulip and have Zulip being the one with access to those convos? Or join someones self hosted instance and let them have access to those convos? I am confused.

You can host your own instance or choose someone you trust to host it. With discord, google, meta you have no options.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#780

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

I'm asking because I hate Matrix and actually want you to convince me: why should I accept the risk of migrating my friend group from Discord to Zulip, which has already "broken the seal" of restricting features behind a monthly fee even for self-hosted users, when I could migrate us to Matrix instead? Matrix seems like the much less risky option. I see that you have a "community" tier that's free and doesn't restric…

The federation of Matrix seems risky to me to the person self-hosting. I don’t want to host random people’s content. I’ve read some interesting articles about the design flaws of Matrix that led me to believe that it’s not a good option.

What is confusing to you about the community tier? It is basically describing any type of community of people who are not a for-profit business. Groups of friends, non-profits, volunteer groups, etc.

Zulip isn’t charging you anything unless you’re a business with more than 10 users and need push notifications, and that is still only $3.50/month/user if you don’t need more enterprisey things like SSO and compliance stuff.

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