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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by spurgu »

vbezhenar wrote: post #745
colechristensen wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a 95th-percentile-sized human, the large phones have been quite appreciated, there is quite a lot of frustration when everything in the world is the wrong size, whatever your size. Now if we could do something about airline seats, sedans, and home furniture.

For me phone size is not about human size. I'm tall person and my finger are quite long. It's about one-hand use. I was able to use iPhone 4S with one hand and it was convenient, not some kind of stretch. It's just not possible with iPhone 8. I'd pay good price for 3.5" iPhone 4S with modern internals. That said, this boat has been sailed. Modern apps won't work on tiny screens because their developers optimize for l…

Agree! And have definitely noticed this both on websites and apps, that sometimes for example it's impossible to highlight a field that's buried behind the keyboard.

One would think that you'd test the whole iPhone range when developing, since it's actually doable (compared to the Android landscape with infinite resolutions) but no.

I'm not blaming Apple for that though.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by valzam »

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #756
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

I miss my old Nexus 4. That was a great size.

and the rubber band around the screen was awesome, you never needed a case and it still had perfect grip!

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ehsankia »

foundry27 wrote: post #686
Nition wrote: post #662

> The first iPhone SE was a hit with many customers who loved its unique combination of small size, high-end performance and affordable price; the new second-generation iPhone SE builds on that great idea and improves on it in every way. Customers loved how it was both small and powerful, so we've improved it by making it much larger...[1] OK, I realise they mean "small compared to the ridiculous size of other phones…

They just don’t get it. This isn’t a replacement for the SE, because it doesn’t actually improve on the things SE owners cared about improving. Things like an edge-to-edge screen and a kick-ass camera in the same form factor, not an iPhone 7 reboot with wireless charging and a faster CPU. What’s more, I know I’m not alone in saying I’d be willing to pay MORE for an ultra-premium small device like that than for any of…

Maybe us consumers underestimate how much space those internals take? The larger screen to body ratio would not only take more space in an already tiny phone, but the battery needed to power that would also need to be larger. The old SE had a 1600mAH battery... which is half of the 3000mAh+ even smaller phones have these days, and none of those lasts more than one full day.

So we somehow expect them to take the exact same form factor and somehow magically get a 10% larger screen and 50% larger battery in there? My guess is that it's just not physically possible to achieve that. Big chin and forehead is the best we can get with the current battery technology for a phone that size.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by boourns311 »

If you're an Android user looking for a small phone, I feel your pain.

I've had one of these for about 6 months and I absolutely love it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KP8J8YN

Disclaimer: I have NO affiliation with this company at all. I'm just a happy user.

Pros:

- built-in rugged case. I've thrown it around the office with no issues

- incredibly small. It fits in the watch pocket (fifth pocket) of your jeans comfortably

- waterproof. Because it fits in my jeans pockets so well, I accidentally washed it with my jeans after a spill. The only piece of clothing in that wash cycle was my jeans, and the phone fell out at some point. It must have banged around in there for 15 minutes; but after the wash was done, I grabbed the phone and unlocked it with my fingerprint. No worries.

- some of the best BT and GPS I've experienced in an Android phone. (And I've owned Nokia, Motorola, and Sony Xperia phones).

- reasonable battery life for a phone of this size

- everyone tells me speakerphone sounds great

Cons:

- the camera is literally a potato. Don't buy this to take photos with.

- good luck typing on this incredibly tiny screen. But instead I use Android's voice-to-text which works great.

I took a chance and it is an absolute marvel.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by totalZero »

mywittyname wrote: post #462
logicslave wrote: post #435

This is how you know the economy is bad, apple is releasing cheap phones

That, and and I bet the price of flagships being so high that people aren't trading in phones as often, which is undermining the used market.

Not to mention that common upgrade motivators like battery degradation and cracked display glass become less important when you are at home all day and you can plug in to a charger, watch TV, and browse the internet on your laptop or desktop.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by geoffbp »

camelNotation wrote: post #732
Razengan wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. iOS has its problems, but every time I have to handle somebody's Android (i.e. to help them do something faster than telling them), I want to give it back as quickly as possible.

I feel the same way when someone hands me an iPhone. In 2020, the operating systems are equally capable and refined, it's just a question of what you're used to. If you had a great Android phone for a few months, you'd probably be just as comfortable with it as you are an iPhone. When someone asks me what phone to buy, my answer is always "what phone do you have now?" because frankly, there is no reason to switch fro…

I used to think this, however now I think for a lot of users iPhone is easier. Fwiw I use android..

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by giovannibonetti »

camelNotation wrote: post #732
Razengan wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. iOS has its problems, but every time I have to handle somebody's Android (i.e. to help them do something faster than telling them), I want to give it back as quickly as possible.

I feel the same way when someone hands me an iPhone. In 2020, the operating systems are equally capable and refined, it's just a question of what you're used to. If you had a great Android phone for a few months, you'd probably be just as comfortable with it as you are an iPhone. When someone asks me what phone to buy, my answer is always "what phone do you have now?" because frankly, there is no reason to switch fro…

Also, typing on the iPhone is a pain because of the horrible auto corrector. Remember all the jokes from people on iPhones cursing on each other because of it? I guess Apple is miles away from Google when it comes to AI for these kind of stuff. Android's keyboard is so good because of it that I often write words pressing all the wrong keys and it somehow figures out correctly what I want to say.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by barbs »

boourns311 wrote: post #775

If you're an Android user looking for a small phone, I feel your pain. I've had one of these for about 6 months and I absolutely love it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KP8J8YN Disclaimer: I have NO affiliation with this company at all. I'm just a happy user. Pros: - built-in rugged case. I've thrown it around the office with no issues - incredibly small. It fits in the watch pocket (fifth pocket) of your jeans…

How often do you have to charge it?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by barbs »

spurgu wrote: post #350
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard. Utterly insane. I replaced my SE with a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact yesterday. It has a 5" screen and decent specs (2018 flagship). About as small as you can get a mobile nowadays, sadly. And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. I can't believe I was stuck with iOS (as…

I'm hoping this recent announcement will highlight the gap left in the market for 4-inch phones.
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