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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#771

I have work at a bank long enough to hear stories about people having mental breakdowns. Everything from just walking out of there office naked to people using the stairway as bathrooms to help deal with the stress and anxiety that some jobs at the bank can cause. At the first bank I worked at I never witness it myself, but when I got a new job at another one it started to become a normal. So a friend of mine got hir…

what country?

America

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I work in a factory and I see all of the problems my older coworkers have. Along with that I think the company wants to move the whole plant to Mexico so there is no long-term job security. I've learned programming in my spare time but when I've tried applying for jobs I didn't get a response, which I assume is because I don't have a degree. I've been trying to get back into university but I'm not sure that it will h…

Companies don't care as much about the degree as your projects.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#773
I was asked to implement "passive data analytics", so our iOS app could soak up data on age, gender, etc. I put in my notice the following Friday.

That was almost a month ago. Currently struggling with the realities of unemployment and depression. Not sure where things will go from here. I haven't discovered any kind of support system for software developers who left their jobs because of their personal morals.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#774

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies want to look 'Agile' so they will treat it as though it is a religion. The daily stand-up bullshit gets taken to such an extreme that it becomes counter productive. If you work at such a place, simply get out. There is nothing that spells long term disaster more than rigid adherence to voodoo process.

The funny (or tragic) thing is, treating a version of Agile as a religion that's right for all teams all the time is against everything that Agile actually is.

Sure, just like actual existing Communism is against everything that Communism actually is.

Both Communism and Agile are at odds with reality (current productive forces and human nature) so they tend to devolve into tyranny.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#775

7 years ago I was hired as the sole developer in a train wreck situation. 14 year old company had just relaunched their site to early and without any testing. It was like eBay but for an expensive niche market. The primary developer walked after the launch. The new site was buggy and the whole thing had been rebuilt without any of the previous security tooling. Phishing and fraud against the user base were everywhere…

+1 gold star for your wife being supportive, and +1 gold star to you for making a classy exit.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#776
post #581

On my last job, a new manager called me for a meeting on Friday 4PM. I spent the whole month on an extremely stressful project. The meeting was about an app that integrates credit card payments, billets and bank account on a terminal that is going to be available to the general public. The deadline? 11PM of the same day. Final version. From 0 to 100% in 6 hours. I said that it was impossible. He said that I was incap…

That is just awful. I'm glad you got out and got something better. When someone tells you to do something that's both impossible and utterly unreasonable, just stick to telling them it's impossible. If he tells you you're incapable, tell him he needs to use a realistic planning for these things, and if he can't do that, then he's incapable. There's no angle from which this is even remotely acceptable. Even more so be…

"A lack of planning on your end does not make it an ermergency on mine"

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#777

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't work with HIPAA but with other compliance/regulations NOT using version control is the problem. Unless you have patient information hardcoded into the source code for god knows what reason...

Things that might be hardcoded are access keys and passwords to PII databases.

No. No no no no no.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#778
Rewind to 1996 or so. I was around 20 and living in Reno NV at the time and was really good at fixing computers. There were a number of local mom and pop computer shops, and I needed a job. A working interview consisted of 10 breakfix cases inside of a day. They'd have been happy with me handling 5. I was hired. I was confident that I'd do a good job for them.

The first sign that there was a problem was when the guy who also interviewed that day got hired. If you go back that far, you might remember that there were two piece power headers on motherboards. If you didn't install them correctly (with the ground wires in the center) and forced them the wrong direction, you'd let out the magic smoke. Somehow they thought hiring the guy who made that mistake was a good idea.

The first week wasn't so bad, but then the bullying started. Verbal abuse. Name calling. Giving me nickname that they'd use to remind me of every mistake I made. Harassing me over mistakes I made to the point that I wanted to cry. If I didn't know something that they knew, even if I couldn't be expected to, I was berated and treated like an idiot. I was young, and so badly needed that job because I was living with my grandparents at the time and they made it clear that I was to get on my own ASAP. They were kind, and didn't kick me out (and it wasn't threatened) but I wanted to be a Good Boy and Do The Right Thing. But it wasn't easy.

Then there was the shop talk. Sometimes they'd talk about work, but most of the time it was talking about strippers and drugs. I was in a shop full of coke addicts.

8 weeks in, I was let go. I was never more glad to be fired from a job in my life.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#779

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're that young (18??), you can almost definitely afford to quit tomorrow and look for something better. Never sacrifice your own career for your employer's success (within some time horizon.) Being willing to quit when your boss is a clear bad actor is a core part of this.

If you're that young (18??), you can almost definitely afford to quit tomorrow and look for something better. It very probably is the opposite. A lot of people who end up working at 18 are doing it because they need the money and their support network is poor.

It's hard when you're young (no savings, car payment, whatever).. but it gets harder before it gets easier.

This is a time in your life when you're (hopefully) not supporting anyone else, don't have a ton of possessions, don't have a mortgage, can couch-surf, eat ramen, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

#780
I worked for a startup that was only founder and myself at the beginning. I took responsibility to build the product, the company grew from us two to 24 in 3 years.

At some point he invited manipulative manager into the team who had a very bad habit of making friends with people by badmouthing other people. Founder did not want to read these signs until the point that manager got private phone line with investors and started badmouthing founder and everyone else. Half year later founder was fired, that manager took over. Soon after I was told off, but I was on my way out anyways after I found him shouting at his subordinates. Anyways this was way too long after I was stripped off from any voice in the company.

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