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Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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After 8 hours total interviewing at one company, I kinda feel like I was hired and fired in a single day

Recently went through something similar with a fairly well known tech company. I was told after nearly a whole day of workshops and interviews that I didn't make the cut. Was called back 3 months later and asked if I'd be interested in another role, organised an interview and the company cancelled it the night before.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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working on non-version-controlled code, having been expressly forbidden from using ANY VC by the CEO Did the CEO give a reason? I'm a bit curious based on it being billing and HIPPA. Also, are you rolling your own EDI import/export?

HIPAA

I don't work with HIPAA but with other compliance/regulations NOT using version control is the problem.

Unless you have patient information hardcoded into the source code for god knows what reason...

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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What are the arguments against version control here (if any)? Honestly the project sounds quite interesting, but I can imagine the circumstances make it painful.

> What's are the arguments against version control here (if any)? * I don't understand it * You're overcomplicating things * We're not using any of that free shit here * It doesn't say Microsoft or IBM * The last guy we hired that tried to use it was smarter than I was so anyone else who tries is a threat to my leadership. (because everyone knows you can only manage people who have a strict subset of your own knowled…

> It doesn't say Microsoft or IBM

GitHub does, now, though I really hope that isn’t necessary for a company to adopt version control.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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> What's are the arguments against version control here (if any)? * I don't understand it * You're overcomplicating things * We're not using any of that free shit here * It doesn't say Microsoft or IBM * The last guy we hired that tried to use it was smarter than I was so anyone else who tries is a threat to my leadership. (because everyone knows you can only manage people who have a strict subset of your own knowled…

> It doesn't say Microsoft or IBM GitHub does, now, though I really hope that isn’t necessary for a company to adopt version control.

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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I didn't know this format was a thing and am so very excited to discover it. I hope you folks enjoy reading horror stories. I got a job as a Software Engineer in my current company 4.5 years ago; friend-of-a-friend sort of thing. The company had an apparently disastrous piece of software that was their main LOB. They had gone through pretty much every local consulting agency - at least once, on a few occasions they h…

That was hilarious, the 2nd half was better than the first! You’ve had an amazing lesson in running businesses, you’d now make an excellent CEO, much better than the one you work for, having done some of his job. All I can say is they didn’t pay you enough money for the amount of stress you went through!

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I have one that has had a runny nose for about two years now and is constantly sniffing. No matter how many times it's mentioned, and even though there is a Kleenex box on their desk, nothing ever changes. It's enough to make me think about quitting some days.

Probably chronic allergies with post nasal drip. They've probably had it their whole life and don't even realize how often they're doing it. That doesn't make it an easier to tolerate though.

Yeah, this happenned to me. No allergies all my life, then about 35 yrs old, it seemed like my nose was running all the time. Blowing my nose about 20 times a day. Enough drainage down my throat that it was causing gag reflex amd coughing issues. Finally lead to bad sinus headaches. Got diagnosed with allergies this past winter. Now, daily take Xyzal and Cingular plus Dymistra nasal sprays, and I get weekly allergy shots. The headaches have mostly subsided and I can breathe more easily, but I still get some drainage.

Odd thing for me, despite my allergies being to cats, dogs, tree and weed pollen, I always feel worst when I'm in the office away from my allergens. When I'm at home with my dog and 3 cats, with the windows open and pollen flowing through the living room, I'm fine. :shrug:

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I don't want to be fired. I absolutely love my job and the people I work with. But I can just smell that we are about to hit a sticking point with how I don't do on call (it was never mentioned in the interviews or part of my contract) and I don't respond to work after 5pm. If it does come to that sticking point I'm trying to figure out how to be the most assertive and diplomatic. I.e. How do I convey that I badly wa…

In professional settings, when it comes to these kinds of awkward topics, I have found a method that has served me very well:

A. Meet with the person who is applying the unwanted pressure (it works best one-on-one, so if more than one person is pressuring, you may need to figure out who is best to speak to).

B. Frame your concern as asking for advice. For example, "I'm struggling with how to handle this on-call thing. Work-life balance is EXTREMELY important to me, but I love my job, and I don't know how to set that boundary without upsetting management. What would you do?"

In my experience, this approach makes the listener very sympathetic and pragmatic, and they advise you to do what you already want to do (and subsequently stop pressuring you to change). I think this is because people like being asked for this sort of help, and when they enter "advice mode" they take a step back and look at the situation from an impartial distance.

YMMV, IANAL, etc., but it's served this awkward introvert quite well.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

working on non-version-controlled code, having been expressly forbidden from using ANY VC by the CEO Did the CEO give a reason? I'm a bit curious based on it being billing and HIPPA. Also, are you rolling your own EDI import/export?

HIPAA

You're not storing patient details in VC...... Right? Maybe show him that you can run svn even on his own machine... Anything... Anything is better than not using something

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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He thinks it's all cloud based. It's sad, yes. I honestly enjoy the work when I know what's going on. We have a lot of unique problems to solve, and I have gotten positive changes made, as well as some really good weeks where I pounded out some good code, but other times it's slow, sad, and frustrating.

https://gitea.io/en-us/ (and its parent https://gogs.io/ ) https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/#self-managed https://github.com/enterprise

Big +1 for Gitea/Gogs, that thing will run on a toaster. Super low memory footprint and great for small shops.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Listen. If not using version control is a problem for you, you're already more hirable than a lot of developers I've seen. Learning is always important but don't use that to procrastinate. You don't have to go straight to the best job in the world. Just find something better (and do your homework to verify) and take it.

I'm in a small city, where not much work is available. I need to pad my resume a little more to make the work I do more attractive, but the reality is that LAMP devs aren't in high demand near me. I apply to several jobs daily, but not much is around. I'd appreciate pointers on how to improve my prospects, but the last place I interviewed was a seedy adult entertainment company, and I wouldn't have taken an offer if…

You said you're 18, you're young and hopefully don't have kids, so apply in other cities as well.

Yeah it's scary. But if the job is good enough, and the pay is good enough, then you've got to figure out why your bullshit reason for staying where you are outweighs both your mental health and your career prospects.

EDIT: And don't forget remote options.

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